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Originally Posted by StMark
Stew, I hope I don't offend you or anyone else but I'm gonna tell it straight. I know of SEVERAL COGIC Bishops who have children by other women in the church. Some are on their general board. some have boys on the side too. There is one case here in Oakland, a General board member paid off the mother ($400,000) of a 15yr old with whom he had a child by to keep her from turning him in. I can tell you NUMEROUS cases. I'm not saying this is a case of race perhaps just denomination?? the bishops are placed on a pedastol of being "untouchable" . It is also prevelant in the Full Gospel Baptist (paul morton's group). for some reason these issues are brushed aside like nothing happend- i don't get it
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St Mark if you dont mind, please tell us what this has to do with the issue at hand here, namely the relative lack of representation of men of color in the upper echelons of the UPCI.
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Originally Posted by tstew
Mark, the whole point of this thread was not whether all black clergymen are above reproach, it was about why we do not see more diversity amongst the leadership specifically in the UPC. I would not attempt to defend or vouch for the fallen Black pastors in other organizations any more than I would the fallen White pastors in other organizations. The stories of Paulk and others are so perverted and convoluted that the average sinner lives above that.
For someone like me who was raised around and able to observe many of the respected Black leaders in our particular org, it is curious to me that a proclivity for immorality would be advanced as a cause for the lack of representation and visibility at some level.
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I agree. I'm still flabergasted that anyone would float that as a possible reason... flabbergasted also that anyone would try to give [anecdotal] support such an outrageous contention, as if it actually contains any merit.
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