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Originally Posted by Timmy
LOL, no they were different statements, but anyway, do you see my point or not? It's not that I literally want you to list all the laws. It's that nobody can definitively discern what they are, and that simply saying follow the Word of God is not enough. There is a law in the OT about killing rebellious children. We don't follow it now. But a lot of AFFers seem to think some of the OT laws are still binding. Tithing, e.g. Most of the Ten Commandments, e.g. But most of us don't think eating shell fish is an abomination, these days. And blended fabric isn't going to send anyone to hell, anymore. (Or will it?)
How do you decide? And how do you decide which NT commands are binding? Should women keep silent in church? Must we sell all we have and give it to the poor to enter the Kingdom? Abstain from meat offered to idols (depending on which part of the NT you look at, that's either forbidden or not) and from blood?
Maybe you decide based on what makes sense to you. Seems to me that everyone "picks and chooses" what to follow, while deriding people like me for doing just that. (Of course, I don't pick or choose anywhere near as many scriptures to follow as most here do!  ) |
First, before I answer, promise me that you will at least spare all the legitimate kids...especially the redheaded ones.
In all sincerity, the very point that you have so "eloquently" pointed out is why there is such a need for teaching today.
Keep God's commandments.
Count them. There are ten of them.
Why do you think that David said that he meditated on them both day and night. What is there to meditate on if David could at least count to ten? What would entail so much of his time just to meditate on ten itty bitty commands?
Because they are more than natural commandments. They are spiritual also. It is not hard for anyone with the Holy Ghost to keep those ten, but it requires a great deal of meditating to perceive them in the spiritual sense. But, don't get me started on the various levels of each of the commandments, all of which reach deep into the heart of man, far beyond just the surface in the natural.
But, when asked which is the greatest commandment, Jesus said to love the Lord with all your heart, soul and mind and the second commandment is like unto it, love your neighbor as yourself...
So, if I love God with all of my heart...I will not
1. have other Gods before Him.
2. make unto my self idols to bow before them.
3. take his name in vain.
4. fail to remember the Sabaath day to keep it holy.
Now, that takes care of the first table of law...which according to Paul in romans, is SPIRITUAL.... This is keeping the FIRST and greatest commandment.
Further more, if I love my neighbor as myself...
5. I will honor my mother and father.
6. I will not kill my neighbor.
7. I will not steal from him.
8. I will not committ adultery with his wife
9. I will not bear a false witness against him.
10. I will not covet what he has.
That takes care of the second commandment, loving my neighbor as myself, found in the second table.
That takes care of both of the commandments according to Jesus.
But, that is only in the natural. What about in the spiritual sense since Paul said that they are spiritual? While both the civil and ceremonial law was nailed to the cross...all of the handwritings of ordinances which were against us, these two commandments found in the Decalog will never be abrogated, or done away with since they are spiritual.
Too much to go into here but briefly, if I lust after a woman in my heart, I am guilty of breaking that commandment in one sense but even higher than that...to comingle the Word of God with what is not the Word of God as a religious cathechism, it is adultery. The children born of it are born of harlotry.
Thou shalt not kill. But I can kill a man in the spiritual sense without ever killing him in the natural. I can kill a man by persuading him not to trust a preacher who is preaching the only plan of salvation. In the spiritual sense, I killed him. You can kill your children by running down your pastor or the man of God who preaches the Wrod of God to them.
On and on I could go like this. This is why David said that he meditated on the LAW both day and night. He intended to keep God's commandments both in the natural sense and in the spiritual sense as well.
Yes....Timmy, look for it in light of what I said. A woman cutting her hair is addressed in the ten commandments in the spiritual sense. Think about it. Paying tithes in the N.T. is found in the commandments in the spiritual sense also. Think about it.
Timmy, spare the kids. I've already written too much.
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