Obey Them that Rule???

[MissBrattified]

Originally Posted by ManOfWord

My thinking has completely changed on this subject. I used to spend my time figuring out how to get people to "line up." I used to spend my time teaching submission to authority. (mine, and then God's ) I now spend the majority of my time figuring out how to serve. People are catching on to this "serving" thing and are beginning to do much more of it themselves.

I am amazed at how people are willing to "submit" or follow when you're not trying to get them to! I also willingly submit to the leaders/ministers on our staff. They clearly recognize me as their leader/pastor and I recognize them as my accountability. They NEVER try to tell me what to preach or teach or how to lead. However, we all speak freely in leadership meetings. I have never had one single argument break out in our meetings and we have dealt with some difficult subjects from time to time.

Again, I didn't say anything at all about making people submit. My pastor certainly doesn't "make" us submit....we choose to submit to him. And we love him very much--he's a great leader!!! (And servant.)

I asked what you feel the saint's responsibilities are, according to the topic at hand. Or do you feel they have no responsibility? If you were a saint attending a church, instead of pastoring one, what would you feel obligated to do, in reference to obeying God's Word on this issue? And what would be a "deal-breaker"?

I've been under good leadership (as we are now), and I've been under really, really BAD leadership in the past. I know the difference, and that really isn't the topic of this thread, although of course its related.