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Originally Posted by LUKE2447
Aquila.... As stated before for the most part your position and that of many commentaries is speculation at best. They all have different opinion and many contradictive. As Paul does not even bring up heeding local custom. Sure veiling in part was common but you can't relegate veiling to simply something you can do away with. It is not a sign just to us but to the angels etc... They expect distinction in the divine order when in ministry when one is acting as part of the body. Veiling gives the significance of position in the body and headship. God always has a parallel of the spiritual to the physical. You are attempting to negate the representive aspect that Paul says a woman should do. God always uses signs of something to represent the heart even if they are not true at heart. It still does not negate that which is desired by God. Baptism is a perfect example it is the appointed time to be united with Christ. Does the water or faith save? They both combine to be that which God desires. So it is with veiling!
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Actually the commentaries are quite consistent on this issue… look it up yourself. Commentaries differ on theological points, but this is a widely known and researched historical and cultural practice. Not to mention that the language is rather straight forward if allowed to read for what it actually says. Paul asks them to “Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray to God uncovered?” This directly calls upon their cultural inclinations and convictions. He doesn’t ask them to “Judge in the scripture…” he asks them their own thoughts on the matter, shaped by their cultural customs. As for veiling, it was customary and isn’t today, this is a modesty standard like a no facial hair standard. Just as Paul’s standard applied then but doesn’t apply today… our facial hair standards didn’t apply then but do apply today. It’s cultural. Nowhere does Paul say that a covering is a sign “to the angels”, you’re reading that into the text. Also, nowhere does the Bible indicate that angels expect anything when operating in response to God’s command or prayer. Angels act as God directs according to the believer’s faith. The issue was modesty. The women were being immodest and rebelling against their husband’s demand that they be veiled. The issue isn’t the veil... its submission.
I think you just want to lay another standard on the women so you can brag about how “holy” you are. In this situation I’m fully confident that Paul would write US and admonish us to put away the veil and end our spiritual pride. Bro, I warn you... I'm at war with legalism and dead religion. Just as Jesus resisted Pharisees and Paul resisted Judaizers... we are called to resist the legalist.
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