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Originally Posted by notofworks
Well, argue with the bible then:
Ephesians 1:13 And now you also have heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.
John 7:39 When he said "living water," he was speaking of the Spirit, who would be given to everyone believing in him.
I John 4:15 All who proclaim that Jesus is the Son of God have God living in them, and they live in God. |
Ephesians 1:13 is a
DIRECT REFERENCE to these very people he ministered to in
Acts 19. When he mentioned
THEM receiving the Spirit all you have to do is look at
Acts 19 to see
EXACTLY the situation he had in mind.
1: And it came to pass, that, while Apollos was at Corinth, Paul having passed through the upper coasts came to Ephesus: and finding certain disciples,
2: He said unto them,
Have ye received the Holy Ghost since ye believed? And they said unto him, We have not so much as heard whether there be any Holy Ghost.
3: And he said unto them, Unto what then were ye baptized? And they said, Unto John's baptism.
4: Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
5: When they heard this, they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.
6: And when Paul had laid his hands upon them,
the Holy Ghost came on them; and they spake with tongues, and prophesied. Acts 19:6
So when you see
Ephesians 1:3 look back to the very experience Paul is writing about in
Acts 19:6.
It
CONFIRMS the doctrine that the Holy Spirit baptism is not automatic.
As to "rivers of living water" that is by no means automatic. It is a real experience. It is the "outpouring" prophesied by Joel.
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