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Originally Posted by mfblume
Right.
Actually I think Matt 54's reference is fulfilled in Romans 5's experience of receiving this gift.
You wondered what I meant earlier in associating righteousness with salvation, making it seem you did not have a concept of how righteousness is involved in salvation -- or at least you never said what relationship the two have together. It was just that you looked as though I was from Mars when speaking about righteousness and salvation together. So I am trying to determine what relationship you think righteousness has at all.
Here is what inspired this thought from http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/sho...postcount=937:
You give hints of something you are thinking, but do not explain your beliefs on it in such statements.
Well you mentioned salvational baptism is salvation by works, and then you said "works" are like walking an old lady across the street when you claimed repentance is not a "work"..
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I'm confused a little by this...In one place you referred to
Matthew 54 and I can't find it, and also, my "handle", "NotofWorks" appears as "Notofowrks" and I have no idea how that could happen. Weird. And I still haven't figured out how to do the multiple quotes. But anyway:
This is probably a little too bottom-lineish, but I love the bottom line...saves time. I believe salvation brings righteousness, but righteousness does not bring us salvation, i.e., we can't improve ourselves in order to get saved, for example, "I quitting sinning, therefore I spoke in tongues." Our righteousness is as filthy rags.