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Originally Posted by mfblume
Notofworks, I guess I will not get a reply about the need to realize righteousness is not a simple issue from you.
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Mike, with respect, that sentence is not a simple issue.
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Originally Posted by mfblume
I guess my post was too long for your attention span, as per your words, no insult intended.
Well, anyway, how is baptism a work like walking an old lady across the street to get to heave by works, anyway. 
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If the "old lady" needs to "heave" it's best she do it in the street and not on the side walk.
Baptism becomes a "work" when dogmatic literalists professing to have some sort of "revealed" insight demand that all Christians baptize according to their rite or find themselves abandoned and "heaving" in the flaming streets of hell.
Alternately, baptism is not a "work" when a sincere believer, leaving a life of sin behind, is buried with Christ and rises to a new life, walking in the Spirit.