How many times did you ask God for the Holy Ghost?

[Sam]

Originally Posted by seekerman

Present it as one may, but the final result of the three step process for a chance at redemption is that tongues is an integral part of the processI. Tongues cannot be separated from the process of attaining a chance at redemption. Without the 'evidence' of tongues, according to some, there is no redemption.

Who taught such a redemption theology IMMEDIATELY before the oneness Pentecostals came along in 1913 anyway?

That WASN'T the teaching of the folks who called themselves Apostolic Faith back in the early 1900's nor was it taught immediately after 1913. That is a later innovation that has taken over a lot of the Oneness Pentecostals but it was not the original Apostolic teaching of the New Testament church in the first century AD, nor was it the teaching of the folks upon whom the Holy Ghost was outpoured in the late 1800's and early 1900's. They were folks who were saved and they knew they were saved. They "discovered" a truth about an empowering experience called "the Holy Ghost Baptism" and they received and preached that experience. A little later they saw the importance of the Name of Jesus and, in addition to praying in that name, healing the sick in that name, evicting demons in that name, and reverencing that name, they began to baptize people in water in that name. The concept of two separate baptisms --one in water and one in Spirit--- being one new birth experience or one salvation experience was not part of their teaching. That has come along later and is a corruption of the New Testament message and has permeated the UPC and other organizations until it is often presented as the norm.