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Originally Posted by faithit166
the bible says the spirit shall guide us into all truth the lord led cornelius to peter but cornelius needed more than what he had ,he met cornelius where he was at,was he born into gods kingdom before he recieved the holy ghost and was baptized no but after he recieved the holy ghost and was baptized he became a joint heir,cornelius was open to god cornelius could have rejected but he didnt.
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First of all the bible is speaking to believers when it says the Spirit shall guide us into all truth.
Secondly, can people be led by God without having the Holy Spirit? You said Cornelius was. I find that very interesting. So what exactly does the gift of the Holy Spirit do for those who are already being led by God before they receive it? Personally I have no doubt that Cornelius was being led by God before he received the Holy Ghost, however I've always taken the reception of the Holy Ghost to mean that God is now leading a person in a much deeper/greater way. It is this way which I view
Romans 8:14 as speaking about. It is in that way that Cornelius was being led by the Holy Ghost before baptism.
Perhaps the best question to ask you is to show me where baptism imparts upon anyone the leading of the Spirit of God? Baptism never does this and so the leading of the Spirit of God in
Romans 8:14 must take place at some other event than baptism.