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Old 08-12-2010, 02:57 PM
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Smile Re: Speaking In Tongues Does Not Equal Salvation.

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There a plethora of musts in the God's Word ... Gary. Like I must love my neighbor ... but does this cause salvation or the New Birth ... or is it a result of salvation and the New Birth?

Repentant believers will get baptized, Gary. If not you never believed. The rest of Christianity believes and preaches this. While unbelief of course will mean that baptism and the other steps born again believers take ... will never happen ... therefore, they are condemned. (Mark 16:16)

Catholics, Mormons, Church of Christ and some OPs preach that baptism is needed for remission/forgiveness of sin. While you also believe that salvation and forgiveness hangs in the balance based on the baptizer getting the right formula said at baptism.

Yet the Bible does not teach this ... there is no biblical teaching that states such a thing. Doing something in His name ... does not mean necessarily dictate "proper verbalization" ... yet throughout Scripture ... in OTHER PLACES like the OT also .. it has always meant doing so in the power and authority of the Lord.

The doctrines of necessary invocation and glossalia to OBTAIN SALVATION is where you fall off the apostolic map, doctrinally.

Logically, also, if you believe that Jesus is the Father, Son and Holy Ghost ... then you should have no problems with a triune formula said at baptism because it's understood the baptism authorized (Mat. 28) is in the Lord's name ... knowing ... like all Christians that salvation is through faith in Jesus Christ.
Sorry, but is says AND is baptized, not those who believe will likely get baptized.

The Bible says we must not only believe the gospel, but we must OBEY the gospel, obedience REQUIRES action on our part.

Jesus even said being born of water and of the Spirit was a MUST.

So I stand firm by these truths that a person MUST believe, repent, be baptized in JESUS name, receive the Holy Ghost and endure faithful to the end to make Heaven.
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