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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
You still didn't address salvation comes by obedience verses faith alone.
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Ha Ha I guess I did'nt did I,
Heb 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
taking the passage in context the obedience is what we do when we are saved, I could copy verse after verse that we are save by faith but I am sure you know them as well as anyone else.
Here is the thing those of us that believe we are saved by faith
do not
believe we can live anyway we want to. But what we do believe at least what I believe is that my salvation is in full affect when when I believe in the work of the cross in Jesus Name.
As James tells us one that truely believes will manifest the works of righteousness or our faith is vain. The differance is I don't have to trust to works to make sure I am save. I can trust in the grace of God and rest in assurance of my salvation.
Those on the other hand feel they must fulfill various works ie baptism, holiness standards, tithing church attendance etc to be and stay saved. Those things, those of us that believe in faith still obey.
The only other thing is the definition of what those works are. There lies the real question.
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