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Old 09-18-2009, 10:11 AM
Walks_in_islam Walks_in_islam is offline
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Re: 09-09-09

I have been busy.

Osama bin Ladin is not my "brother". Nor are any of his twisted followers. He and his followers have killed and tortured many thousands of Muslims and far more muslims have died by his hands than any other group. He is a creation of our own country, justified to spank the russians when we could not do it ourselves, that Muslims and non-Muslims alike now have to deal with.

You cannot tell me that (4) completely different version of the same story from so-called "witnesses" that directly contradict each other can all be correct. They cannot be blended, or explained, or justified. Better to just acknowledge that the general events happened but that the details are hidden than try to somehow explain that they are all correct. Because they contradict. The words are there and the factual details don't match. Nice of you to admit your bible is a paraphrase. None of the other "paraphrases" match either. I checked them all LOL.

As to God or not, I am not the one to ask. Use the words of Jesus himself who GOD spoke through quite often:

"I am; and you shall see THE SON OF MAN SITTING AT THE RIGHT HAND OF POWER, and COMING WITH THE CLOUDS OF HEAVEN."

Get it? Right hand? Whose right hand? Who is the Son of Man? Is it not Jesus himself?

Islam, like christianity, teaches that Jesus will return to and rule the earth. Not Mohammed, but Jesus. Islam also teaches that Jesus was a messenger from GOD who was taken up to heaven by GOD. Jesus taught to pray to GOD. From his cross (at least in one version) he committed his spirit to GOD and another version he prayed to GOD. Did Jesus never once, at any time, in any teaching, say "worship me"? No he did not, he deferred to GOD consistantly and throughout his ministry.

The Quran teaches that there is no difference between those who follow the law as stated in the Quran and those who follow the teachings of Jesus. They are the same. Jesus taught to and exampled praying to ELI the root word for Allah which goes back thousands of years.

You are free to claim racism in Islam all you want. I do see racism in the apostolic church and I do not see racism in Islam. The apostolic church has "ministry" and "black ministry" still on their website. The churches are split by color and it is still extremely common to have a "white" church and "black" church in the same city and the two congregations absolutely, not once, never mix.

Tabari is a Shi'a source and is the most-used by christians to degrade Islam. For good reason. Tabari directly contradicts the teachings of Islam and the writings represent a minority sect of the religion. It is equivalent of me posting nasty old documents from the Roman Catholic Church and applying it to the apostolic faith.

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Originally Posted by mfblume View Post
Walks in Islam, is Jesus God Almighty or not? And if not, then is a Christian who believes Jesus is Almighty God to be considered someone who rejected the truth that moslems claim they show us regarding Jesus?
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