Whaaaaaaatt???? What's happening in Canada??

[Thumper]

I respectfully have to disagree with the last statement.
What really holds us back is a change of mentality and a socialization of what it means to be a Christian.
We have become content to be comfortable, a malaise that is not only in the pulpit but also in the pew. The key to national revival does not lie with Hazelwood, Toronto or anywhere else, it lies in each local church fulfilling the great commission where they are.
Our problem today is we spend all our time defining who we are and what our purpose is and what our challenges are and we never just get down to doing what we are supposed to be doing. No national governing body or definition can change that.
There is a large group of our constituency who are cultural pentecostals. It's all they know and they have much of the "stuff" down pat - but lack the fire and fervency to change the world.

Great comments True North.

I don't think that I could agree with you more

[TrueNorth]

OK here is the scoop,

There is no story apparently. Sort of...

According to a source very close to the previously mentioned western epicentre there is nothing afloat from this quarter.

However, I have a sneaking suspicion that what I was told last night is not neccesarily 100% accurate. As has been documented here earlier there have been some letters written but now these letters are being denied.

Don't worry Maple leaf I will get to the bottom of it if I have to camp out on the door step of the Royal Palace.

:)

Thumper
Your source is pretty accurate.
A letter and survey were sent out. Meetings were held. Everybody's sort of happy. Hopefully end of story for immediate future.

[Truly Blessed]

Wow... this may really be the issue - finances!!If the ACOP can do it, so can the UPCC! We have a very nice headquarters building purchased in the last 6 years or so and a full time staff of 4 plus a part time Missions Director.

[D&J]

I respectfully have to disagree with the last statement.
What really holds us back is a change of mentality and a socialization of what it means to be a Christian.
We have become content to be comfortable, a malaise that is not only in the pulpit but also in the pew. The key to national revival does not lie with Hazelwood, Toronto or anywhere else, it lies in each local church fulfilling the great commission where they are.
Our problem today is we spend all our time defining who we are and what our purpose is and what our challenges are and we never just get down to doing what we are supposed to be doing. No national governing body or definition can change that.
There is a large group of our constituency who are cultural pentecostals. It's all they know and they have much of the "stuff" down pat - but lack the fire and fervency to change the world.

Good points!!

I agree with you but I also think that as a whole we would have more of a forward thrust across our nation if we could for sure define who we really are. I am of the persuasion that a clearly defined purpose would unify us in some dimensions.

Are we just a "legal enity" or are we the church?

[TrueNorth]

Good points!!

I agree with you but I also think that as a whole we would have more of a forward thrust across our nation if we could for sure define who we really are. I am of the persuasion that a clearly defined purpose would unify us in some dimensions.

Are we just a "legal enity" or are we the church?

UPCC up until this point has been just a legal entity. I'm not sure I want it to be any more than that.
Even if we redefine what the UPCC is I don't see what difference it will make. Home Missions would still be the domain of the district and its director. The difference would be that it would probably be working with less money. When the District Home Missions Director is motivated and inspires others to get out into the field the work of evangelizing new territory goes ahead.

BTW, we already have a clearly defined purpose "The whole gospel to the whole world"

[Maple Leaf]

I would like to nominate this unemployed Canadian for the job of official spokesman for the new UPCC.

If you have any questions about the official positions of the UPCC, just ask him. (eg. If you want proof for the praying hair doctrine, just ask him.)

aX6XMIldkRU

[Monkeyman]

I have to go to Montreal soon... those folks better learn to speak English before I get there. :DWhen r u going? I will be there first weekend of Sept....

[Steve Epley]

EF was at he Canadian conference he said he was somewhat shocked at the music?

[Monkeyman]

EF was at he Canadian conference he said he was somewhat shocked at the music?
Whatever..we didn't have banjos, sorry! He he he

[Monkeyman]

Our night was wed...
Our songlist was,
Shout to the Lord,
You Are Great, You do Miracles So Great
Revelation Song
*newer* There's No God Like our God

Hmmm, nothing crazy here????????

[Steve Epley]

He said the music was so contemporary he was shocked.

[Truly Blessed]

Our night was wed...
Our songlist was,
Shout to the Lord,
You Are Great, You do Miracles So Great
Revelation Song
*newer* There's No God Like our God

Hmmm, nothing crazy here????????What hymn book did you get those from? :)

[Monkeyman]

He said the music was so contemporary he was shocked.
Things pass bro...times change. It was very respectful, in fact, all of the music groups involved took great care in choosing songs to NOT offend. There are plenty of conferences around where "Fly the flag" and " I shall Not Be Moved" are still sung, enjoy those by all means. God's anointing was on everyone and the worship by most was tremendous.

Do you remember when your group started singing "The Blood Will Never Lose It's Power" well that author once was criticized for being contemporary...nuff said. I'm done with this issue, out of respect to some elders, have at it.

[Maple Leaf]

Things pass bro...times change. It was very respectful, in fact, all of the music groups involved took great care in choosing songs to NOT offend. There are plenty of conferences around where "Fly the flag" and " I shall Not Be Moved" are still sung, enjoy those by all means. God's anointing was on everyone and the worship by most was tremendous.

Do you remember when your group started singing "The Blood Will Never Lose It's Power" well that author once was criticized for being contemporary...nuff said. I'm done with this issue, out of respect to some elders, have at it.

I was there on Nova Scotia night, and was impressed with the talent and enthusiasm of the singers. Jesus and I like country, but, in my opinion, those who can't sing country should go ahead and make their joyful noise anyway.

I have a suggestion for the powers that be at CCC. Sell the pews and buy some air conditioning. The pews don't get much use, and it sure was hot.

The only complaint I have about Canada Conference is that the people were so friendly that it took a long time to get from the service to the feed trough.

[Barb]

Things pass bro...times change. It was very respectful, in fact, all of the music groups involved took great care in choosing songs to NOT offend. There are plenty of conferences around where "Fly the flag" and " I shall Not Be Moved" are still sung, enjoy those by all means. God's anointing was on everyone and the worship by most was tremendous.

Do you remember when your group started singing "The Blood Will Never Lose It's Power" well that author once was criticized for being contemporary...nuff said. I'm done with this issue, out of respect to some elders, have at it.
I remember when we started singing it in the UP church where I grew up...Andrae' is Black and COGIC...folks were not impressed by it all in the late 60s.

But now, 40 odd years later, and you'd think The Blood was a hymn of the Church.

Times and seasons change and being adaptable to the flow is not always a bad thing...JMHO!!:sshhh

[Barb]

I was there on Nova Scotia night, and was impressed with the talent and enthusiasm of the singers. Jesus and I like country, but, in my opinion, those who can't sing country should go ahead and make their joyful noise anyway.

I have a suggestion for the powers that be at CCC. Sell the pews and buy some air conditioning. The pews don't get much use, and it sure was hot.

The only complaint I have about Canada Conference is that the people were so friendly that it took a long time to get from the service to the feed trough.

This is great, ML...

[Monkeyman]

I was there on Nova Scotia night, and was impressed with the talent and enthusiasm of the singers. Jesus and I like country, but, in my opinion, those who can't sing country should go ahead and make their joyful noise anyway.

I have a suggestion for the powers that be at CCC. Sell the pews and buy some air conditioning. The pews don't get much use, and it sure was hot.

The only complaint I have about Canada Conference is that the people were so friendly that it took a long time to get from the service to the feed trough.I can't believe after all this time, we finally disagree on something my friend...JESUS DON'T LIKE COUNTRY!!!! He only created it to get on my nerves like the NB mosquito! he he he

[Monkeyman]

We have priced AC and it is outrageous...but...when we add on someday, it will be there in Jesus Name!!!

[Monkeyman]

BTW, my good friends and associate Pastors are doing the music for family camp....sooooo...u probably won't get any country if you visit...sorry, he heeee

[Fonix]

I don't know where it went to but I read it. :)

I've not heard anything at all about the Canadian brethren wanting to go it on their own and become the UPC of Canada, and I would have very mixed feelings about it happening.


I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever Felicity so please know this is really written in curiosity.

Why would you even care what the UPC did? Didnt you leave the organazation after being overseas missionaries?

[Maple Leaf]

BTW, my good friends and associate Pastors are doing the music for family camp....sooooo...u probably won't get any country if you visit...sorry, he heeee

Here's a parable for you.

Joy Gardner and a few of her friends had a country gospel concert, charged $50 a seat and sold out Harbour Station. You can get into Summer Summit for a looney in the fried chicken bucket, and they won't half fill the Aitken Center.

Go and learn what this means.

[Monkeyman]

I have always seen respectful posts by Felicity and many times has been quoted as hoping for good things concerning my org...and I for one appreciate it. They even let the UPC use their church bldg...

[Maple Leaf]

This is great, ML...

I've got the whole Hound Dog look going on.

People find it hard not to stop and pat my head.

[Monkeyman]

Here's a parable for you.

Joy Gardner and a few of her friends had a country gospel concert, charged $50 a seat and sold out Harbour Station. You can get into Summer Summit for a looney in the fried chicken bucket, and they won't half fill the Aitken Center.

Go and learn what this means.ok here is the deal pal if you haven't been to this camp for the past 10 years then I would understand you not knowing that it has been a country-fest..with empty seats! He he they should have brought Joy & pals???
Israel & New Breed and 3rd Day fill stadiums

[Maple Leaf]

ok here is the deal pal if you haven't been to this camp for the past 10 years then I would understand you not knowing that it has been a country-fest..with empty seats!
Israel & New Breed and 3rd Day fill stadiums

Football fills stadiums too.

If guys too fat to skate and too slow to stick handle can fill stadiums, why wouldn't singers too tone deaf to sing to the sweet sounds of a steel guitar also fill stadiums?

[Monkeyman]

Football fills stadiums too.

If guys too fat to skate and too slow to stick handle can fill stadiums, why wouldn't singers too tone deaf to sing to the sweet sounds of a steel guitar also fill stadiums?he he he, everytime I hear one of those things, my fillings hurt!



Heeeeeeeey, wait a minute.....Did u just cap on my NFL too?????? Ok, where is the beat you over the head smiley????

[Maple Leaf]

ok here is the deal pal if you haven't been to this camp for the past 10 years then I would understand you not knowing that it has been a country-fest..with empty seats! He he they should have brought Joy & pals???
Israel & New Breed and 3rd Day fill stadiums

Yup!

Guy Penrod would go over real well singing at Summer Summit.

You book him, and I'll be there.

[Monkeyman]

Yup!

Guy Penrod would go over real well singing at Summer Summit.

You book him, and I'll be there.Well, he would have "Holy Hair"

[Maple Leaf]

he he he, everytime I hear one of those things, my fillings hurt!



Heeeeeeeey, wait a minute.....Did u just cap on my NFL too?????? Ok, where is the beat you over the head smiley????


I believe that the NFL serves a valuable role in the world of professional football.

If it wasn't for the NFL the poor players who can't make the cut in the CFL would have to go back to handling the cash registers at McDonalds.

[Monkeyman]

well after Warren Moon and that Flutie guy, you have me at a loss to name any great CFL players! Didn't Ricky Williams try the CFL because he was caught smoking pot?
I don't think we will be getting together any time soon on a Sunday to watch sports or listen to music!

[Barb]

I've got the whole Hound Dog look going on.

People find it hard not to stop and pat my head.

Here's a parable for you.

Joy Gardner and a few of her friends had a country gospel concert, charged $50 a seat and sold out Harbour Station. You can get into Summer Summit for a looney in the fried chicken bucket, and they won't half fill the Aitken Center.

Go and learn what this means.

LOL!! A question from a Yankee...what's a looney?!

[Maple Leaf]

well after Warren Moon and that Flutie guy, you have me at a loss to name any great CFL players! Didn't Ricky Williams try the CFL because he was caught smoking pot?
I don't think we will be getting together any time soon on a Sunday to watch sports or listen to music!

I've never watched a complete football game in my life.

My MP3 players is loaded with sermons.

But, you get a pass because you married a curly headed blond girl from my hood. (How'd you like that for a country guy going urban?)

[Maple Leaf]

LOL!! A question from a Yankee...what's a looney?!

It used to be $.67

Now it's $.93

If you yankees don't get your economy under control, it'll soon be $1.00

[Monkeyman]

I've never watched a complete football game in my life.

My MP3 players is loaded with sermons.

But, you get a pass because you married a curly headed blond girl from my hood. (How'd you like that for a country guy going urban?)Ha, you're hood. Where it's only violent during Moose season!

[Monkeyman]

It used to be $.67

Now it's $.93

If you yankees don't get your economy under control, it'll soon be $1.00
Grrr, I just received a large US funds check...ummm...cheque. Was I ever peeved when I cashed it.

[Maple Leaf]

Ha, you're hood. Where it's only violent during Moose season!

If you open your bedroom window and sing at the top of your lungs, they'll hear you all over the hood where me and my homeys hung when I was growing in wisdom and stature before the Lord.

I wouldn't recommend that new breed stuff, or you might find out that a thirty ought six is good for something other than moose hunting.

[Monkeyman]

There is a dude who practices his bagpipes 1 street over, ewwww!
Funny story, we have a neighbor who does complain about my deck speakers! Even when I play them during the day and quietly, maybe I should put on some Floyd Kramer????

[D&J]

My MP3 players is loaded with sermons.

I can only imagine!!

I would like to see the list of speakers!! :killinme

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

LOL!! A question from a Yankee...what's a looney?!

a $1 cdn coin with a photo of a loon on the back.

http://www.metropoleparis.com/2000/530/mail530b.jpg

They also have a $2 cdn silver/nickel on the outside, and brass on the inside. Almost the size of a US Quarter.

Quite easy once you get used to how to use them!

http://www.hooliator.net/Assets/north%20america/canada/toronto_hoo__1660.jpg

[Scott Hutchinson]

I thought there was an actor name George Looney.

[Barb]

It used to be $.67

Now it's $.93

If you yankees don't get your economy under control, it'll soon be $1.00

a $1 cdn coin with a photo of a loon on the back.

http://www.metropoleparis.com/2000/530/mail530b.jpg

They also have a $2 cdn silver/nickel on the outside, and brass on the inside. Almost the size of a US Quarter.

Quite easy once you get used to how to use them!

http://www.hooliator.net/Assets/north%20america/canada/toronto_hoo__1660.jpg
Thank you gentlemen for the info...

[TrueNorth]

Monkeyman
Are they setting up a video projector at the Aitken this year?
Last time I was there it was down home country from the book and no words being projected.
It was real old time.

[Maple Leaf]

I can only imagine!!

I would like to see the list of speakers!! :killinme

Here you go.

Here's one of my randomized files of sermon downloads.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/SermonDownloads.jpg

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Here you go.

Here's one of my randomized files of sermon downloads.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/SermonDownloads.jpg

drooling here...... :search

[Scott Hutchinson]

Maple Leaf I see a UC on there are you getting true conversion ?

[TrueNorth]

drooling here...... :search

Glad to see that you have been to Resurgence. Leadership lessons from nehemiah are well worth listening to along with Life and death of the Missional Leader by Darrin Patrick.

[Maple Leaf]

Maple Leaf I see a UC on there are you getting true conversion ?

Here is the file "Sermon Downloads 2" opened.

It's called an eclectic list.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/SermonDownloads2.jpg

[D&J]

Here you go.

Here's one of my randomized files of sermon downloads.

Wow, what a list...

Some very interesting folders listed!!

Where do you download from?

[TrueNorth]

Wow, what a list...

Some very interesting folders listed!!

Where do you download from?

www.istealsermons.com

[TrueNorth]

Wow, what a list...

Some very interesting folders listed!!

Where do you download from?

You can get some from
visionbuilder.us
theresurgence.com
itunes has a bunch of Warren, Andy Stanley, The Strategic Guys etc all free.
You can get TD there are as well but you will have to pay.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

www.istealsermons.com

I should register this name as a subdomain.

I wonder what kind of traffic it would bring.

:lol

[Truly Blessed]

Things pass bro...times change. It was very respectful, in fact, all of the music groups involved took great care in choosing songs to NOT offend. There are plenty of conferences around where "Fly the flag" and " I shall Not Be Moved" are still sung, enjoy those by all means. God's anointing was on everyone and the worship by most was tremendous.

Do you remember when your group started singing "The Blood Will Never Lose It's Power" well that author once was criticized for being contemporary...nuff said. I'm done with this issue, out of respect to some elders, have at it.


Change. “There is a time for everything, and a season for every activity under the heaven.” (Eccl.3:1) It’s been said that the only constant in our world today is change. Are you a person who loves change? Or does the very idea of altering “the way it’s always been” send cold chills up and down your spine, especially if it wasn’t your idea?

Whatever your reaction, know this truth, change is going to happen. It’s inevitable and unavoidable, so there’s no sense fighting every change that arises. We can become resistant and harden ourselves against change, or we can ask God for grace to adapt to change. It's not easy to learn to think "we" instead of "me."

Adjusting to changes in life may be the most difficult thing we have to do. There is almost always a sense of denial and anger before there is acceptance, similar to the grieving process. Not every person has the same tolerance to change. Some adventurous souls actually relish the adventure of new situations. Others like their life exactly as it is: nice and predictable. For these people, the idea of change produces fear.

However, when we surrender the issues of change to God we discover that His love is able to cast out all fear. We simply trust that God is in control, and whatever changes are in store for us, He will always be there to give us grace to humbly accept change for the sake of “we” versus things remaining the same for “me”.

[Truly Blessed]

I believe that the NFL serves a valuable role in the world of professional football.

If it wasn't for the NFL the poor players who can't make the cut in the CFL would have to go back to handling the cash registers at McDonalds.
:killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme :killinme

[Truly Blessed]

well after Warren Moon and that Flutie guy, you have me at a loss to name any great CFL players! Didn't Ricky Williams try the CFL because he was caught smoking pot?
I don't think we will be getting together any time soon on a Sunday to watch sports or listen to music!Hey, Monkeyman, do they ever broadcast any BC Lions games out east? I will be there for the next two weeks and would love to see the BC Lions/Toronto Argonauts game next week.

[Truly Blessed]

I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever Felicity so please know this is really written in curiosity.

Why would you even care what the UPC did? Didnt you leave the organazation after being overseas missionaries?

Perhaps for the same reason Mapleleaf and other ex-UPCers on AFF post about matters within the UPC? Because we have chosen to no longer have credentials with the UPCI does not mean we no longer have fellowship with the UPC. When you have spent 23 years of your life in an organization and developed friendships with so many people through the years it's only natural that you will have interest in what is happening there.

I don't suppose we should be attending Summer Summit or General Conference this year either?!

[Steve Epley]

Things pass bro...times change. It was very respectful, in fact, all of the music groups involved took great care in choosing songs to NOT offend. There are plenty of conferences around where "Fly the flag" and " I shall Not Be Moved" are still sung, enjoy those by all means. God's anointing was on everyone and the worship by most was tremendous.

Do you remember when your group started singing "The Blood Will Never Lose It's Power" well that author once was criticized for being contemporary...nuff said. I'm done with this issue, out of respect to some elders, have at it.

I wasn't there but I forgot you probably were involved in the music I wasn't meaning any offense. This preacher hasn't been to Canadian UPC conference in 30 years so it was a shock to him. Said he only knew a handful of preachers time does that.

[Felicity]

I mean no disrespect to you whatsoever Felicity so please know this is really written in curiosity.

Why would you even care what the UPC did? Didnt you leave the organazation after being overseas missionaries?We left the UPC in 1997 - NINE years after we came home.

I will never lose my connection with the UPCI and I have no desire to. In fact, what I want is to STAY connected and I am doing that. Particularly in the past few months it's been amazing the new connections and reconnection with past friends that have been made. It is nothing but the Lord and has to do with God's timing I believe and I'm so thankful for the friends I've made even on these forums who are in the United Pentecostal Church.

My whole life - from the time I was born - has been defined by living for God and doing that within the framework of and in United Pentecostal Churches. How could I ever just not be interested?! Hello! :)

I still talk sometimes as if we're still UPC. My husband tells me I never left. You can take the girl out of the UPC but you can never take the UPC out of the girl. And far as I'm concerned, this is a very good thing.

Thanks for your interest. :)

[Maple Leaf]

Wow, what a list...

Some very interesting folders listed!!

Where do you download from?


www.kt.org

Two sermons from RT Kendall especially worth listening to:

"The Betrayal Barrier" (A Calvinist perspective, but a good message)

and, "The Value of Unanswered Prayers"


www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/

Look for the Paris Reidhead classic, "Ten Shekels and a Shirt"

and "Your Reasonable Service" by Jim Cymbala



www.christchurchnashville.org

The Dan Scott sermons on Patriarchy are incredible for men.

Two sermons not on the website that I wish I had are Dan Scott's Father's Day sermon from 2006, and the Commencement Day sermon from last year on the topic of immigration.



I have downloaded quite a few from Ren Rutledge's site in the past.

Two great Canadian sermons from there are John Nickerson's sermon, "The Gospel Shall be Preached," and Raymond Beesley's, "The Sin of Prayerlessness."



One sermon that I don't have that I would like to find is, "The Sea and Life," by Bro. Treadway.

[TrueNorth]

www.kt.org

Two sermons from RT Kendall especially worth listening to:

"The Betrayal Barrier" (A Calvinist perspective, but a good message)

and, "The Value of Unanswered Prayers"


www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/

Look for the Paris Reidhead classic, "Ten Shekels and a Shirt"

and "Your Reasonable Service" by Jim Cymbala



www.christchurchnashville.org

The Dan Scott sermons on Patriarchy are incredible for men.

Two sermons not on the website that I wish I had are Dan Scott's Father's Day sermon from 2006, and the Commencement Day sermon from last year on the topic of immigration.



I have downloaded quite a few from Ren Rutledge's site in the past.

Two great Canadian sermons from there are John Nickerson's sermon, "The Gospel Shall be Preached," and Raymond Beesley's, "The Sin of Prayerlessness."



One sermon that I don't have that I would like to find is, "The Sea and Life," by Bro. Treadway.

I have the "Question of Immigration" sermon - used to have "The Sea And Life" on cassette but can't seem to find it. "Ten Shekels and a shirt" by Paris Readhead is a must listen.

[TrueNorth]

Clive Pick on tithing from kt.org is pretty good as well

[Ferd]

I love Canada. In fact I think it should be the 51st state!

[Maple Leaf]

Perhaps for the same reason Mapleleaf and other ex-UPCers on AFF post about matters within the UPC? Because we have chosen to no longer have credentials with the UPCI does not mean we no longer have fellowship with the UPC. When you have spent 23 years of your life in an organization and developed friendships with so many people through the years it's only natural that you will have interest in what is happening there.

I don't suppose we should be attending Summer Summit or General Conference this year either?!

The question of our continuing interest in the UPC is an interesting one, and one for which Pastor Blessed has given a very good answer. I probably interact with as many UPC preachers and people as many UPC ministers have opportunity to fellowship.

In the Oneness world, to borrow a phrase,"When the UPC sneezes, we all get a cold." The UPC is very important to the Oneness movement, and therefore we take an interest in the trends and issues that affect the organization.

There has been a vast change in the UPC in New Brunswick in the last couple of decades, and credentials are not nearly so important in defining fellowship as they used to be. I meet many UPC preachers and people at non-UPC events, and non-UPC preachers and people at UPC events.

[Maple Leaf]

I love Canada. In fact I think it should be the 51st state!

Would we be the only state to have posted a budget surplus every year for the last decade or more?

Would we be the only state to do the decent thing and guarantee all of its citizens equal access to quality healthcare?

[Ferd]

Would we be the only state to have posted a budget surplus every year for the last decade or more?

Would we be the only state to do the decent thing and guarantee all of its citizens equal access to quality healthcare?


No

and

no.


many states have budget surpluses.

All Americans and any illegal aliens have equal access to quality healthcare. it is in the area of equal coverage by insurance where there is discrepency. Canada as the 51st state might be the first to guarantee that. BUT Mass. I think has some kind of insurance coverage for all citizens there....

(PS poor people get a great deal here. it is the middle class/self employed that have issues).

[D&J]

Two sermons from RT Kendall especially worth listening to:

"The Betrayal Barrier" (A Calvinist perspective, but a good message)

Downloaded it!!

and, "The Value of Unanswered Prayers"

Downloaded it!!


www.sermonindex.net/modules/mydownloads/

Look for the Paris Reidhead classic, "Ten Shekels and a Shirt"

Downloaded it!!

and "Your Reasonable Service" by Jim Cymbala

Downloaded it!!


John Nickerson's sermon, "The Gospel Shall be Preached,"

Already have it on DVD

Raymond Beesley's, "The Sin of Prayerlessness."

Got the tape here somewhere??

Thanks for these recommendations, anymore?

[D&J]

Anybody got any material done up on the book of Esther that you would not mind sharing?

[TrueNorth]

No

and

no.


many states have budget surpluses.

All Americans and any illegal aliens have equal access to quality healthcare. it is in the area of equal coverage by insurance where there is discrepency. Canada as the 51st state might be the first to guarantee that. BUT Mass. I think has some kind of insurance coverage for all citizens there....

(PS poor people get a great deal here. it is the middle class/self employed that have issues).
You mean like Bro. Steadfast collapsing with apparent heart failure and being afraid to go get treated properly because of insurance fears?
Or how about people having a heart attack and getting financially wiped out?

[Monkeyman]

Monkeyman
Are they setting up a video projector at the Aitken this year?
Last time I was there it was down home country from the book and no words being projected.
It was real old time.he, he. I know and I tease them, they are my friends and are excellent at what they do. The song-leader jokes that he does a lot of "seniors" weekends, ha!!
This year J&K are doing at least some of the music and since they are involved, I would expect them to use E.P. and his lyric database. They will do a great job of blending but don't expect down home...alas, I shall not be there as I will be away on vacation..er, holidays.

[Monkeyman]

Hey, Monkeyman, do they ever broadcast any BC Lions games out east? I will be there for the next two weeks and would love to see the BC Lions/Toronto Argonauts game next week.Yessir, especially if the Argos are involved, because Ontario rules the broadcasting schedules...I've tried, but I can't get into CFL...must be my upbringing!

[Monkeyman]

I wasn't there but I forgot you probably were involved in the music I wasn't meaning any offense. This preacher hasn't been to Canadian UPC conference in 30 years so it was a shock to him. Said he only knew a handful of preachers time does that.Yes sir, I can understand his shock...from 30 years to today, in our sanctuary, would be quite the change!!!

[Monkeyman]

Here you go.

Here's one of my randomized files of sermon downloads.

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/SermonDownloads.jpg
Wow...impressive! You just might get saved!! J/K

I see you have that liberal "Silent Praise" stuff....heehee, that's my neice and crew and I'm proud of em'
BTW...she just got engaged last weekend, grrrrrr!

[Maple Leaf]

You mean like Bro. Steadfast collapsing with apparent heart failure and being afraid to go get treated properly because of insurance fears?
Or how about people having a heart attack and getting financially wiped out?

If Bro. Stedfast lived where I do, and collapsed as he did, he would be transported to the hospital by ambulance, seen immediately by the appropriate physicians, receive whatever care was necessary, stay in the hospital as long as required, and go home with his family finances intact.

I often shake my head over the deplorable situations that working Americans are forced into by profit mongering health care providers. America will never truly be the greatest nation on earth until it learns to look after its own citizens.

[Maple Leaf]

Wow...impressive! You just might get saved!! J/K

I see you have that liberal "Silent Praise" stuff....heehee, that's my neice and crew and I'm proud of em'
BTW...she just got engaged last weekend, grrrrrr!

I also listen to sermons from CCC occasionally, but I balance them with sermons from Peoples Church. (I would recommend "Get Right or Get Left")


Don't worry. You won't lose a niece, you'll gain a nephew, and maybe a whole new generation of foot stomping, fiddle playing, flannel wearing grandnephews and nieces.

[Truly Blessed]

Yessir, especially if the Argos are involved, because Ontario rules the broadcasting schedules...I've tried, but I can't get into CFL...must be my upbringing!I think it makes a difference whether you have a team in your city or not. I never had any interest in the CFL either until I moved to Surrey, which is home to the BC Lions. Their head office and practice field is just down the street from our church. I rather enjoy following the team now, and of course it helps when your team is a winning team (Grey Cup).

The Boston Red Sox have been my baseball team since I was a kid, (being from Maine myself) so I am doing pretty good right now. We Red Sox fans are never happier than when our team is higher in the standings then NYY, who are 10.5 games behind right now. My son and I are going to a Red Sox/Seattle Mariners game in Seattle on Monday night. Then I fly to Boston and after a visit with family in Maine will arrive in NB in time to take in some of the Summer Summit.:highfive

[Ferd]

You mean like Bro. Steadfast collapsing with apparent heart failure and being afraid to go get treated properly because of insurance fears?
Or how about people having a heart attack and getting financially wiped out?

exactly! you CAN get treatment, you juist might not be able to pay for it later....and then you cant pay for anything. or some such.

that doesnt mean Nationalized Healthcare is the prefered option...just that the current state of insurance availablity/cost structures is very much broken.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

exactly! you CAN get treatment, you juist might not be able to pay for it later....and then you cant pay for anything. or some such.

that doesnt mean Nationalized Healthcare is the prefered option...just that the current state of insurance availablity/cost structures is very much broken.

Ferd, this will soon be the debate in the US. Socialized Government ran medicine, or Free Enterprise ran medicine.

After all the Government is doing for immigrants...... :aaa

[Ferd]

Ferd, this will soon be the debate in the US. Socialized Government ran medicine, or Free Enterprise ran medicine.

After all the Government is doing for immigrants...... :aaa

if we can hold the debate off until RedTed Kennedy is no longer in politics it would be wonderful. Red Ted did much to cause the current mess with some of his bumbling business in the senate back in the 1970's working to create the HMO.

socialism is a poor answer to any question.

[Ferd]

On a more postive note,

Ive been watching a show on the History Channel about Ice Roads in the Frozen north of Canada, wow! that is way cool

[Broken]

BTW, my good friends and associate Pastors are doing the music for family camp....sooooo...u probably won't get any country if you visit...sorry, he heeee



I would say if "Pastor" heard you heehee on this one - there would be "country"

Can't go thru a camp meeting without some country

There will be worship going forth to the King of Kings himself no matter what music is played

[Maple Leaf]

if we can hold the debate off until RedTed Kennedy is no longer in politics it would be wonderful. Red Ted did much to cause the current mess with some of his bumbling business in the senate back in the 1970's working to create the HMO.

socialism is a poor answer to any question.

I've been reading comments about Canadian socialism as long as I've been reading these message boards. It always seems to crop up in any discussion of health care.

The question that I can't seem to get an answer for is, "How is our health care system any more socialistic than the American education system?" If American citizens can recognize the need for, and be willing to fund, a universal education system, why is it such a leap to recognize the need for a universal health care system, equally available to every citizen.

[Maple Leaf]

I would say if "Pastor" heard you heehee on this one - there would be "country"

Can't go thru a camp meeting without some country

There will be worship going forth to the King of Kings himself no matter what music is played

Hey, another Canadian.

Welcome to the Apostolic Friends Forum.

Be sure that your Internet Forums Security settings on your IE forums control panel are set at the maximum limits allowed by your ISP for its religious forums protocol.

Give Monkeyman a call and have him walk you through the process.

You don't want to have your personal information broadcast to other posters.

[Barb]

I've been reading comments about Canadian socialism as long as I've been reading these message boards. It always seems to crop up in any discussion of health care.

The question that I can't seem to get an answer for is, "How is our health care system any more socialistic than the American education system?" If American citizens can recognize the need for, and be willing to fund, a universal education system, why is it such a leap to recognize the need for a universal health care system, equally available to every citizen.

You have my vote for president...

[Broken]

Hey, another Canadian.

Welcome to the Apostolic Friends Forum.

Be sure that your Internet Forums Security settings on your IE forums control panel are set at the maximum limits allowed by your ISP for its religious forums protocol.

Give Monkeyman a call and have him walk you through the process.

You don't want to have your personal information broadcast to other posters.


Thanks- I am not sure I am another Canadian.

I would need to know Monkeyman's real name & phone # to call- I do have long distance plan in case he lives far away

No, No don't want personal info broadcast to other posters

[Monkeyman]

Concerning "Summer Summit".....mmmmmm...it still may be a country-fest, so have fun Maple Leaf!!! Woohoo! This is based on recent info passed onto me. Not 100% for sure yet...bring a banjo just in case, hehe

[Broken]

Concerning "Summer Summit".....mmmmmm...it still may be a country-fest, so have fun Maple Leaf!!! Woohoo! This is based on recent info passed onto me. Not 100% for sure yet...bring a banjo just in case, hehe


Great, hehe

[Monkeyman]

Thanks- I am not sure I am another Canadian.

I would need to know Monkeyman's real name & phone # to call- I do have long distance plan in case he lives far away

No, No don't want personal info broadcast to other postersGotcha. PM me and I will give you the info...as I stated earlier...my friends do that music and do it well, it wasn't a slam.
If you have been on the forum or NFCF, you would know that I always tease about country and then always state that there is room for ALL. I'm VEEERY inclusive and believe that everyone should be able to participate. There is NO argument that the Summer Summit has a country flair, as Youth Convention does not. We just cater to different needs and audiences. Having said all of this, as I just posted, Summer Summit will probably still have a country flair. On another note, my Pastor is also my Bro-in-law and knows my flavor of music preference and tolerates it. He loves me for me and what I can bring to the table concerning worship. God made me what I am and gave me my tastes and I pass that along to others with my music.
My District Sup is the Father-in_law of the music leader of past Summer Summits and knows that he and I are friends and highly respect and love each other. If you need further explanations, PM me..I'll call you

[D&J]

There will be worship going forth to the King of Kings himself no matter what music is played

Thats the way it should be!!!

So, there is going to be projection screens at the Aitken Center... wow!!

[Monkeyman]

Thats the way it should be!!!

So, there is going to be projection screens at the Aitken Center... wow!!ha ha! Note....the monkey did NOT say there were going to projectors...he said, MAYBE! But what do you care good man, you know all the words anyways, he he!!!

[Monkeyman]

I think it makes a difference whether you have a team in your city or not. I never had any interest in the CFL either until I moved to Surrey, which is home to the BC Lions. Their head office and practice field is just down the street from our church. I rather enjoy following the team now, and of course it helps when your team is a winning team (Grey Cup).

The Boston Red Sox have been my baseball team since I was a kid, (being from Maine myself) so I am doing pretty good right now. We Red Sox fans are never happier than when our team is higher in the standings then NYY, who are 10.5 games behind right now. My son and I are going to a Red Sox/Seattle Mariners game in Seattle on Monday night. Then I fly to Boston and after a visit with family in Maine will arrive in NB in time to take in some of the Summer Summit.:highfiveAwesome! Go Sox. I will be at Fenway Friday! Front row!

[Maple Leaf]

Gotcha. PM me and I will give you the info...as I stated earlier...my friends do that music and do it well, it wasn't a slam.
If you have been on the forum or NFCF, you would know that I always tease about country and then always state that there is room for ALL. I'm VEEERY inclusive and believe that everyone should be able to participate. There is NO argument that the Summer Summit has a country flair, as Youth Convention does not. We just cater to different needs and audiences. Having said all of this, as I just posted, Summer Summit will probably still have a country flair. On another note, my Pastor is also my Bro-in-law and knows my flavor of music preference and tolerates it. He loves me for me and what I can bring to the table concerning worship. God made me what I am and gave me my tastes and I pass that along to others with my music.
My District Sup is the Father-in_law of the music leader of past Summer Summits and knows that he and I are friends and highly respect and love each other. If you need further explanations, PM me..I'll call you


Man, am I ever confused.

I made what I thought was a hilarious post, in the hope that Broken would call Monkeyman and ask him some dumb questions about religious forums protocols.

Broken would come back and blast me; I would be amused; Just a fun Friday night in the woods of New Brunswick.

But, instead, we've got Monkeyman offering a ten thousand word explanation as to why he doesn't think that having a bunch of fat white guys sing anthems through their noses is such a bad idea after all.

Who is Broken that he/she has inspired such fear in the irrepressible Monkeyman?

[Monkeyman]

hahaha, didn't read any post but one calling for my personal number and name, hehe. I'll go back and read!!!!!

[Monkeyman]

Oooooh, you called D.F. fat!!!!!!

[Maple Leaf]

Thanks- I am not sure I am another Canadian.

I would need to know Monkeyman's real name & phone # to call- I do have long distance plan in case he lives far away

No, No don't want personal info broadcast to other posters

It's not hard to tell whether or not you're a Canadian.

If you're fat, bald, and think you look good in tight clothes, you're probably American. (Especially true if you're a woman)

If you've ever wrapped up in a Hudson's Bay blanket on a cold night, you're probably Canadian. (If you've ever owned a coat made out of a Hudson's Bay blanket, you're a Canadian for sure)

If you still don't know, lift both hands and say, "eh?," and I'll tell you whether you're a Canadian or not.

[Monkeyman]

If you don't know how to merge into traffic, YOU'RE CANADIAN!

[Maple Leaf]

Oooooh, you called D.F. fat!!!!!!

Well, as they say, "If the girdle fits, wear it!"


(Actually, I haven't seen D.F. in years - if he really is fat, . . . ah forget it, the line was too funny to take back)

[Monkeyman]

Well, as they say, "If the girdle fits, wear it!"


(Actually, I haven't seen D.F. in years - if he really is fat, . . . ah forget it, the line was too funny to take back)he he, I always go for the laugh too. He ain't fat, but bald???? Not saying!

[Truly Blessed]

Mapleleaf, will I see you at Summer Summit?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Hey, another Canadian.

Welcome to the Apostolic Friends Forum.

Be sure that your Internet Forums Security settings on your IE forums control panel are set at the maximum limits allowed by your ISP for its religious forums protocol.

Give Monkeyman a call and have him walk you through the process.

You don't want to have your personal information broadcast to other posters.

Even better - go to the bottom of the page, and GET Firefox.

This yank will point you where you can find how to secure it as well.

[Maple Leaf]

he he, I always go for the laugh too. He ain't fat, but bald???? Not saying!

Did you hear about the panel discussion planned for the closed Minister's Meeting at Summer Summit?

The topic will be, "Comb-Over or Shaved Head: What's a bald man to do?"

_ _ will defend the position that 10" comb-overs violate 1 Corinthians 11.

_ _ will contend that shaved heads immodestly expose the lines of the head.

The meeting will conclude with either a snipping of comb-overs, or a new policy that requires comb-overs for all bald preachers.

[StillStanding]

To all my Canadian friends:

It's looking more and more like Hamilton will not get the Predators! hahahahaha

Hamilton will now have to depend on the sports of Speed Fishing (contains cutting a hole in the ice and racer ice skates) and meese (Is this the plural of moose?) watching! :)

[Maple Leaf]

To all my Canadian friends:

It's looking more and more like Hamilton will not get the Predators! hahahahaha

Hamilton will now have to depend on the sports of Speed Fishing (contains cutting a hole in the ice and racer ice skates) and meese (Is this the plural of moose?) watching! :)


http://www.hamiltonbulldogs.com/themes/bulldogs/graphics/splash/2007champions.jpg

[Maple Leaf]

Mapleleaf, will I see you at Summer Summit?

I wasn't planning to go until some anonymous Monkeyman sent me the order of service for Friday night.

Call to Worship: "Come and Dine"

Song Service: A selection of hymns from your "Sing Unto the Lord" hymnal, crescendoing to "O, I want to See Him."

Offertory: A rousing round of duelling accordions.

The Miramichi Mass Choir will sing one of Lanny Wolfe's latest releases, "Signs of the Times."

Additional soloists will be called up from the audience, instant in and out of season.

Message: "This Generation Shall Not Pass"

Synopsis of message: All signs point to 1988. The Balfour Declaration was signed in 1918; one seventy year generation points us to 1988 . Israel achieved nationhood in 1948; one forty year generation again points us to 1988. The evangelist will be sharing startling prophecies from the insightful book, "Eighty Eight Reasons. . ."

Following the service, the visiting evangelist will be showing actual slides of bar codes being scanned in a supermarket in Ontario.

[StillStanding]

ML, Did you notice that the top two draft picks for the NHL yesterday were Americans?????? I see a trend developing! :)

[Felicity]

Oh goodness! :lol

(referring to ML's last post)

[Truly Blessed]

I wasn't planning to go until some anonymous Monkeyman sent me the order of service for Friday night.

Call to Worship: "Come and Dine"

Song Service: A selection of hymns from your "Sing Unto the Lord" hymnal, crescendoing to "O, I want to See Him."

Offertory: A rousing round of duelling accordions.

The Miramichi Mass Choir will sing one of Lanny Wolfe's latest releases, "Signs of the Times."

Additional soloists will be called up from the audience, instant in and out of season.

Message: "This Generation Shall Not Pass"

Synopsis of message: All signs point to 1988. The Balfour Declaration was signed in 1918; one seventy year generation points us to 1988 . Israel achieved nationhood in 1948; one forty year generation again points us to 1988. The evangelist will be sharing startling prophecies from the insightful book, "Eighty Eight Reasons. . ."

Following the service, the visiting evangelist will be showing actual slides of bar codes being scanned in a supermarket in Ontario.

Thanks for sharing this "inside" information with me. We are so blessed to have a well placed non-UPC friend here on AFF. That sounds like one service I wouldn't want to miss! :lol

[Destiny2]

Felicity
Saw your sister today at the prayer conference with Maria Durso,no doubt will see you when you are home.

[Ferd]

I've been reading comments about Canadian socialism as long as I've been reading these message boards. It always seems to crop up in any discussion of health care.

The question that I can't seem to get an answer for is, "How is our health care system any more socialistic than the American education system?" If American citizens can recognize the need for, and be willing to fund, a universal education system, why is it such a leap to recognize the need for a universal health care system, equally available to every citizen.

Maple dude, I would suggest to you that your healthcare system is not more socialized than our education system and I would further suggest that our education system is broken because of its current socialistic state.

[D&J]

Good Morning all you fellow Canadians!!

Have a fantastic day!!

[Truly Blessed]

Thanks D&J! I have an easy day today. I have a guest speaker and then following the service we're honoring 94 church volunteers with a luncheon. Last year we introduced a Volunteer of the Week program. We have a large picture of the volunteer displyed in the foyer and we recognize them in the service. At the luncheon today, the volunteers will vote for a Volunteer of the Year. They will receive a $50.00 gift certificate to a local steak house.

Just one day to vacation! NB, here we come!

[TRIPLE E]

I wasn't planning to go until some anonymous Monkeyman sent me the order of service for Friday night.

Call to Worship: "Come and Dine"

Song Service: A selection of hymns from your "Sing Unto the Lord" hymnal, crescendoing to "O, I want to See Him."

Offertory: A rousing round of duelling accordions.

The Miramichi Mass Choir will sing one of Lanny Wolfe's latest releases, "Signs of the Times."

Additional soloists will be called up from the audience, instant in and out of season.

Message: "This Generation Shall Not Pass"

Synopsis of message: All signs point to 1988. The Balfour Declaration was signed in 1918; one seventy year generation points us to 1988 . Israel achieved nationhood in 1948; one forty year generation again points us to 1988. The evangelist will be sharing startling prophecies from the insightful book, "Eighty Eight Reasons. . ."

Following the service, the visiting evangelist will be showing actual slides of bar codes being scanned in a supermarket in Ontario.


Ok I thought Irvin Baxter was coming to tell us the truth about when the rapture is going to take place.

[TRIPLE E]

Thanks D&J! I have an easy day today. I have a guest speaker and then following the service we're honoring 94 church volunteers with a luncheon. Last year we introduced a Volunteer of the Week program. We have a large picture of the volunteer displyed in the foyer and we recognize them in the service. At the luncheon today, the volunteers will vote for a Volunteer of the Year. They will receive a $50.00 gift certificate to a local steak house.

Just one day to vacation! NB, here we come!

We have been having extremely rainy weather and thunder here in our part of God's country the last couple days,hope the sun comes out for your visit!

[Maple Leaf]

Ok I thought Irvin Baxter was coming to tell us the truth about when the rapture is going to take place.

He canceled to attend the rebuilding of the Temple in Jerusalem.

Richard Heard is coming to bring some fresh fear with a new discovery about the ashes of a red heifer.

[Felicity]

We have been having extremely rainy weather and thunder here in our part of God's country the last couple days,hope the sun comes out for your visit!It's been raining here a lot too. Rained most of the day yesterday all through the night and this morning. Then cleared off later this afternoon. It's been really cool here too. Only 7 degrees this morning.

We're used to rain. LOL! :lol We have week after week of it here all winter and spring long.

[Felicity]

Felicity
Saw your sister today at the prayer conference with Maria Durso,no doubt will see you when you are home.I hope so. We're already booked for both Sundays that we're home so looks like we won't get to visit the local churches in F'ton. Perhaps we'll see you at SS. I hope so!

I'm so looking forward to seeing everybody!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

:Nhl_crash

:Nhl_check

[Felicity]

:Nhl_crash

:Nhl_checkI'm sure the boys will enjoy those. :rolleyes:



:)

[Maple Leaf]

:Nhl_crash

:Nhl_check

Excellent!

:Nhl_check

If you note the colours in this one, you will see the blue Toronto Maple Leaf player checking the red Montreal Canadians player over and over again. Just like in real life.

For this, I vote to make BOOM an honorary Canadian.

(If he achieves this honour, he will need to correct the spelling of flavour in the sub forum title to retain his status)

BTW, this new sub forum set up is really great, eh?

[D&J]

BTW, this new sub forum set up is really great, eh?

It is wonderful...

We Canadians deserve our own spot!

[Monkeyman]

It is wonderful...

We Canadians deserve our own spot!Ahem...What about those that have married into it??

[D&J]

Ahem...What about those that have married into it??

Wellllllllllllll, I guess we could let you in???

Maybe we should take a vote??

[Monkeyman]

Man am I ever in trouble!!

[D&J]

Man am I ever in trouble!!

Oh well, you will be absent from Summer Summit anyway! :killinme

[Maple Leaf]

The "Verse of the Day" from the forum banner has a "word" for all pastors planning vacations.

Woe to the idol shepherd that leaveth the flock! the sword shall be upon his arm, and upon his right eye: his arm shall be clean dried up, and his right eye shall be utterly darkened.

Zechariah 11:17/KJV

***Those preachers who are already clean dried up need not heed this warning. (If Wally is lurking somewhere out there. I've listened to your sermons, and you need fear nothing from a long vacation.)

[Maple Leaf]

It is wonderful...

We Canadians deserve our own spot!


Ahem...What about those that have married into it??

You already got more than you deserved when you got a Canadian girl.

However, stay home for summer summit, sing "Looo. . . .ooove your Neighbour as Yourself" in a true Freddy C. style (Fiddles and Mandolins), and I'll vote for you to get what you deserve.

:Nhl_check <------- My new favourite smilie. (I can't get enough of seeing the habs player annihilated.)

[Monkeyman]

Oh well, you will be absent from Summer Summit anyway! :killinmehardy har har!! Maybe I can get them to webcast it and I'll watch it from Times Square!!

Seriously, we need to webcast more conferences in Canada due to the large territory for ministers/regular folks to travel. It wouldn't take much effort nor monies IMO.

[Monkeyman]

You already got more than you deserved when you got a Canadian girl. Yes I did

However, stay home for summer summit, sing "Looo. . . .ooove your Neighbour as Yourself" in a true Freddy C. style (Fiddles and Mandolins), and I'll vote for you to get what you deserve. I don't know that song!

:Nhl_check <------- My new favourite smilie. (I can't get enough of seeing the habs player annihilated.)You're too violent, he he heheehee

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Ahem...What about those that have married into it??

I used to hear this expression of marriage into an area.

If you have a broke down stove on your porch. If a cat has her kittens inside that broke down stove, do you call them muffins?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Excellent!

:Nhl_check

If you note the colours in this one, you will see the blue Toronto Maple Leaf player checking the red Montreal Canadians player over and over again. Just like in real life.

For this, I vote to make BOOM an honorary Canadian.

(If he achieves this honour, he will need to correct the spelling of flavour in the sub forum title to retain his status)

BTW, this new sub forum set up is really great, eh?

See the Title of post #365, and I will correct the subforum title. I am glad you like it.

[Monkeyman]

I used to hear this expression of marriage into an area.

If you have a broke down stove on your porch. If a cat has her kittens inside that broke down stove, do you call them muffins?
A: Canada ain't broke down
B: I ain't no cat
C: My wife calls me muffin!!! (j/k)

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

A: Canada ain't broke down
B: I ain't no cat
C: My wife calls me muffin!!! (j/k)

Touche`

Now if we can only get Wally back here.

[Maple Leaf]

Touche`

Now if we can only get Wally back here.


Boy, this post sure brings back a lot of memories.

First, of the many tearful prayers that Wally's mom prayed at an old fashioned altar: "Please Lord, just take him back, and I'll never complain about anything ever again."

The second, about three weeks after Wally married a fine unsuspecting Christian girl, who, coming from far back in the woods didn't have much exposure to potential husbands, is the haunting memory of her plaintive wails as she begged Wally's mother: "Please take him back! I'll do anything you ask, but please take him back!"

That being said, I am all for anything we can do to get back at Wally.

:Nhl_check

[Maple Leaf]

Anglican Church votes against same-sex unions
Updated Sun. Jun. 24 2007 10:03 PM ET
CTV.ca News Staff

Canadian Anglican delegates meeting in Winnipeg have voted against blessing same-sex unions, despite the majority of members actually being in favour of the motion.

"The laity voted in favour, the clergy voted in favour, but it was the House of Bishops that narrowly decided not to approve the motion that was before the members of Synod," Reverend Canon Christopher Pratt, of the Diocese of Huron, told CTV Newsnet on Sunday.

"In total point of fact, there was a majority of members of Synod that voted in favour (of the motion)."

The bishops voted against the motion 21-19.

The Anglican Church does not perform weddings for same-sex couples; instead, debate focused on whether it should allow priests to perfrom blessings for those who obtain a civil marriage.

Earlier, delegates had decided that blessing same-sex unions would not conflict with the Church's core doctrine. But the final motion -- that clergy should be allowed to perform such blessings -- was defeated.

The vote came a day after delegates failed to make a decision after hours of wrangling over procedural issues.

Speakers at the annual meeting were torn over the issue and debated whether to even hold the vote this weekend.

"Sin is still sin, and to bless sin would be a disaster to our church," Rev. David Parsons, a minister for 28 years, warned attendees ahead of the vote.

"Jesus Christ is my one and only saviour, this Bible is trustworthy, and I urge you brothers and sisters to listen to it."

Others were more supportive of the blessings.

Archdeacon Karl McLean, a colonel with the Canadian Forces, said the church should bless same-sex relationships that are monogamous and committed.

"We need to consider and demonstrate God's character, God's love and justice," he said.

Canada's Evangelical Lutheran church, which is also meeting in Winnipeg this weekend, rejected same sex blessings in a vote held Saturday.

Pratt said the issue would be a source of continuing debate among clergy, despite Sunday's vote.

"I think this is going to be an ongoing discussion, as people take a look at the way in which they can effectively carry out the ministry to which they've been called at the local level," said Pratt. "And so the conversations are going to continue to go on, as people reflect on those basic elements of scripture and tradition."

With files from the Canadian Press

This recent controversy in the Anglican Church came to both a positive and a negative conclusion: The positive was that they voted not to bless same-sex unions; The negative was their refusal to condemn same-sex marriage, and the broad support for blessing same-sex unions.

I found this statement to be particularly disturbing: "Earlier, delegates had decided that blessing same-sex unions would not conflict with the Church's core doctrine. But the final motion -- that clergy should be allowed to perform such blessings -- was defeated."

[TopDog]

To all my Canadian friends:

It's looking more and more like Hamilton will not get the Predators! hahahahaha


Question: You know what the worst thing about Hamilton getting a professional hockey team would be?

Answer: Toronto would want to have one too!

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[Felicity]

What's new in Canada? Felicity just had supper with some wonderful friends sitting on the backyard deck of a home on a hill overlooking Belleisle Bay with the moon shining bright in the sky and reflecting off the water in the Bay, Junebugs beating at the patio door :uhoh and the pastor beating a gigantic moth to death. :lol

TB's in Maine somewhere. :D

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Excellent!

:Nhl_check

If you note the colours in this one, you will see the blue Toronto Maple Leaf player checking the red Montreal Canadians player over and over again. Just like in real life.


Heh heh heh

We have our own All StarTeam of Hockey Smileys!
:Nhl_crash

:Nhl_check

:nhl2 :nhl :nhl3

[Maple Leaf]

What's new in Canada? Felicity just had supper with some wonderful friends sitting on the backyard deck of a home on a hill overlooking Belleisle Bay with the moon shining bright in the sky and reflecting off the water in the Bay, Junebugs beating at the patio door :uhoh and the pastor beating a gigantic moth to death. :lol

TB's in Maine somewhere. :D


The only thing better than a moonlit Belleisle Bay is the quality of the people who live on its shores, whether you're on a hill overlooking it, or in the village close beside it.

:nhl3 :nhl3 :nhl3 (Go, Leafs, Go! - Hurray for BOOM)

:Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check

[Maple Leaf]

Question: You know what the worst thing about Hamilton getting a professional hockey team would be?

Answer: Toronto would want to have one too!

:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol


I've tried my best to ignore this post, but must admit, it is pretty funny.

How's she goin' T-Dog?


Q: What do the Flames and the Titanic have in common?
A: They both look terrific until they hit the ice.

:nhl3 :nhl3 :nhl3 (Go Leafs, Go! - Hurray for BOOM)

[Broken]

What's new in Canada? Felicity just had supper with some wonderful friends sitting on the backyard deck of a home on a hill overlooking Belleisle Bay with the moon shining bright in the sky and reflecting off the water in the Bay, Junebugs beating at the patio door :uhoh and the pastor beating a gigantic moth to death. :lol

TB's in Maine somewhere. :D


Must have been a "wicked" experience:lol

[Maple Leaf]

Stories like this are part of the reason why I think that Western Alienation is not necessarily a bad thing.


Two boys were playing hockey at an outdoor arena when one is attacked by a Pitbull. Thinking quickly, the other boy rips a board off the nearby fence, wedges it down the dog's collar and twists, breaking the dog's neck. A reporter who was walking by saw the incident, and rushed over to interview the boy!

"Calgary Flames fan saves friend from vicious animal," he starts writing in his notebook.

"But I'm not a Flames fan," the boy replied.

"Edmonton Oilers fan rescues friend from horrific attack," the reporter starts again.

"I'm not a Oilers fan either," the boy said.

"Then what are you?" the reporter asked.

"I'm a Maple Leafs fan."

The reporter turns to a new sheet in his notebook and writes, "Redneck idiot kills family pet."

:Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check :Nhl_check (The Canadians aren't the only team in red)

[D&J]

To much heat!!

Give me some cool air!!

[TrueNorth]

An Ottawa Senators hockey fan was driving home from work and he passed by a local priest. He stops and offers him a lift. The priest thanks him kindly and together they proceed to the church to drop the priest off.

On the way they pass a man walking his dog on the other side of the road; on closer inspection the man was seen to be wearing a Toronto Maple Leafs jersey. Now the driver hated the Maple Leafs and suddenly felt an uncontrollable urge to run his car into him. He put his foot down on the accelerator and tried to hit him. At the last minute the Maple Leafs fan jumped out of the way. The driver of the car heard a bang but he was sure he'd missed him.

The two men proceeded to the church in silence and the Ottawa Senators fan pulled up and said, "Look Father, I'm really sorry about that incident back there. I don't know what came over me, can you forgive me father?"

The Priest replied "Of course I can forgive you my son; I got him with the car door."
:nhl:nhl:nhl:nhl:nhl:nhl

[TrueNorth]

Four hockey fans were climbing a mountain one day. Each was a fan of a different team, and each proclaimed to be the most loyal of all fans of their hockey team. As they climbed higher, they argued as to which one of them was the most loyal of all.

They continued to argue all the way up the mountain, and finally as they reached the top, the Canadiens fan hurled himself off the mountain, shouting, "This is for the Great Montreal Canadiens!" as he fell to his doom. Not wanting to be out done, the Edmonton Oilers fan threw himself off the mountain shouting "This is for the Oilers!"

Seeing this, the Ottawa Senators fan walked over and shouted, "This is for everyone!" and pushed the Toronto Maple Leafs fan off the side of the mountain.

[TopDog]

A young boy was in court as part of a custody hearing. His mother had just divorced his abusive father. The judge asked the little boy if he wants to stay with his mother.

The little guys sobs and says - "no, no she beats me too"!

The judge is quite surprised and asks the little guys if he'd like to live with auntie Barbara who's in the courtroom.

He starts sobbing again and says - no, no, no, she hit me with a belt once"!

The judge - at this point a little exasperated says " well Johnny who would you like to go and live with?"

Little Johnny quickly replies - "I want to go and live with the Edmonton Oilers".

Surprised the judge asks "Why?"

Johnny replies, still half sobbing, "because the Oilers can't beat anyone!"

[ALVIN]

What do the Blue Jays, Raptors, Argonauts, and Maple Leafs all have in common?


















None of them can play hockey. :nhl :highfive :nhl2

[Maple Leaf]

A Canadian hockey fan, an American fan and a Swedish fan were all in Saudi Arabia, sharing a smuggled case of alcohol. All of a sudden Saudi police rushed in and arrested them. The mere possession of alcohol is a severe offence in Saudi Arabia, so for the terrible crime of actually being caught consuming the alcohol, they were sentenced to death!

However, after many months and with the help of very good lawyers, they were able to successfully appeal their sentence down to life imprisonment. By a stroke of luck, it was a Saudi national holiday the day their trial finished, and the extremely benevolent Sheik decided they could be released after receiving just 20 lashes each of the whip. As they were preparing for their punishment, the Sheik suddenly said:

"It's my first wife's birthday today, and she has asked me to allow each of you one wish before your whipping."

The Swede fan was first in line (he had drunk the least), so he thought about this for a while and then said: "Please tie a pillow to my back."

This was done, but the pillow only lasted 10 lashes before the whip went through. The Swede fan had to be carried away bleeding and crying with pain when the punishment was done.

The American fan was next up (he almost finished a half-can), and after watching the scene, said: "All Right! Please fix two pillows on my back." But even two pillows could only take 15 lashes before the whip went through again, sending the American fan crying.

The Canadian fan was the last one up (he had finished off the case), but before he could say anything, the Sheik turned to him and said: "You support the greatest team in the world, your country has the best and most loyal hockey fans in the world. For this, you may have two wishes!"

"Thanks, your Royal highness", the Canadian replies. "In recognition of your kindness, my first wish is that you give me not 20, but 100 lashes."

"Not only are you an honorable man, you are also very brave," the Sheik says with an admiring look on his face. "If 100 lashes is what you desire, then so be it. And your second wish? What is it to be?" the Sheik asks.

"Tie the American fan to my back so he can get whooped again." :nhl :Nhl_crash :Nhl_check

[ALVIN]

The Official Canadian Temperature Conversion Chart

50° Fahrenheit (10° C)
• New Yorkers try to turn on the heat.
• Canadians plant gardens.

40° Fahrenheit (4.4° C)
• Californians shiver uncontrollably.
• Canadians Sunbathe.

35° Fahrenheit (1.6° C)
• Italian Cars won't start.
• Canadians drive with the windows down.

32° Fahrenheit (0 ° C)
• Distilled water freezes
• Canadian water get thicker.

0° Fahrenheit (-17.9° C)
• New York City landlords finally turn on the heat.
• Canadians have the last cookout of the season.

-40° Fahrenheit (-40° C)
• Hollywood disintegrates.
• Canadians rent some videos.

-60° Fahrenheit (-51° C)
• Mt. St. Helens freezes.
• Canadian Girl Guides sell cookies door-to-door.

-100° Fahrenheit (-73° C)
• Santa Claus abandons the North Pole.
• Canadians pull down their ear flaps.

-460° Fahrenheit (-273° C)
• Absolute zero; all atomic motion stops.
• Canadians start saying "cold, eh?"

-500° Fahrenheit (-295° C)
• The lake of fire freezes over.
• The Toronto Maple Leafs win the Stanley Cup.

[Felicity]

Must have been a "wicked" experience:lolVery! ;)

I've been having a "wicked" time for the past few days actually. Seriously ...... it's been wonderful. :thumbsup

[Barb]

Very! ;)

I've been having a "wicked" time for the past few days actually. Seriously ...... it's been wonderful. :thumbsup

Glad you're having a great time...!!:clap

[Maple Leaf]

Dear Friends:


Today, I went to Summer Summit for the first time in years.


Did I see D&J there? Nope!


Did I see TripleE there? Nope!


Did I see Wally there? Nope!


Did I see SecretPlace there? Nope!


Did I see Pelet there? Nope!


Did I see Destiny there? Nope!


Did I see SisM there? Nope!


Did I see Frank there? Nope!


Who did I see there?


Why, I saw Felicity at the Summer Summit. That's who I saw there.


Felicity was as fashionable as ever: fashionably late (Of the 130 people there, she was the 125th to arrive); and fashionably attired (Her walker matched her outfit perfectly). :lol

[Barb]

Dear Friends:


Today, I went to Summer Summit for the first time in years.


Did I see D&J there? Nope!


Did I see TripleE there? Nope!


Did I see Wally there? Nope!


Did I see SecretPlace there? Nope!


Did I see Pelet there? Nope!


Did I see Destiny there? Nope!


Did I see SisM there? Nope!


Did I see Frank there? Nope!


Who did I see there?


Why, I saw Felicity at the Summer Summit. That's who I saw there.


Felicity was as fashionable as ever: fashionably late (Of the 130 people there, she was the 125th to arrive); and fashionably attired (Her walker matched her outfit perfectly). :lol

Ooooh, are you gonna be in trouble....:heeheehee

[ALVIN]

Hey what about me?

I can testify that Maple Leaf was at Summer Summit, and that he must of went early. He had a back row seat. What's going on? Is Maple Leaf ready to repent and return home?

[TrueNorth]

Hey what about me?

I can testify that Maple Leaf was at Summer Summit, and that he must of went early. He had a back row seat. What's going on? Is Maple Leaf ready to repent and return home?

Hallelujah and pass the kleenex!!!!

[Thumper]

Back to the original start to this thread, I think I have the whole story now on the UPCoC.

There was a letter and a survey sent out to the entire Canadian ministerial constituency. That letter and survey was signed by three different men from different parts of the country but it was unquestionably the brainchild and project of a certain well known former Canadian presbyter who resides on the west coast. The other two names associated with it are basically just window dressing, PVR was the driving force behind it.

My details on the survey are a little sketchy so some of you who have been a little quiet on this one (3E and DJ come to mind) could help out here a little. As I understand it the survey was about evangelism but within it was a question or series of questions that asked about Canada going it alone. Those who got the survey could post those questions for us for clarity sake.

Anyways, this idea went over like a ham sandwich at Jewish wedding or to keep my analogies Canadian like a Maple leaf jersey at the Bell centre. The author was hauled in front of the Canadian district superintendants at Canada conference, rebuked and told he was out of order and causing dissention, yada yada yada. They slapped him on the wrist and sent him packing, end of story. No independent Canada. You won't be sending your annual dues to 321 Carnarvan St. Hazelwood still has a death grip on Flin Flon and all other parts north of the 49th parallel.

Now my source, who is very close to the family, tells me that PVR has taken this very very badly. It really hurt him and he is astounded at the response and reaction this has generated and feels betrayed by his Canadian bretheren.

If anyone has any more info, step up to the plate but I'm pretty confident that my story is pretty close the way it actually played out.

:)

[Ron]

Back to the original start to this thread, I think I have the whole story now on the UPCoC.

There was a letter and a survey sent out to the entire Canadian ministerial constituency. That letter and survey was signed by three different men from different parts of the country but it was unquestionably the brainchild and project of a certain well known former Canadian presbyter who resides on the west coast. The other two names associated with it are basically just window dressing, PVR was the driving force behind it.

My details on the survey are a little sketchy so some of you who have been a little quiet on this one (3E and DJ come to mind) could help out here a little. As I understand it the survey was about evangelism but within it was a question or series of questions that asked about Canada going it alone. Those who got the survey could post those questions for us for clarity sake.

Anyways, this idea went over like a ham sandwich at Jewish wedding or to keep my analogies Canadian like a Maple leaf jersey at the Bell centre. The author was hauled in front of the Canadian district superintendants at Canada conference, rebuked and told he was out of order and causing dissention, yada yada yada. They slapped him on the wrist and sent him packing, end of story. No independent Canada. You won't be sending your annual dues to 321 Carnarvan St. Hazelwood still has a death grip on Flin Flon and all other parts north of the 49th parallel.

Now my source, who is very close to the family, tells me that PVR has taken this very very badly. It really hurt him and he is astounded at the response and reaction this has generated and feels betrayed by his Canadian bretheren.

If anyone has any more info, step up to the plate but I'm pretty confident that my story is pretty close the way it actually played out.

:)

Well Thumper, thou hast the pulse of things pretty well!:thumbsup

[Maple Leaf]

Back to the original start to this thread, I think I have the whole story now on the UPCoC.

There was a letter and a survey sent out to the entire Canadian ministerial constituency. That letter and survey was signed by three different men from different parts of the country but it was unquestionably the brainchild and project of a certain well known former Canadian presbyter who resides on the west coast. The other two names associated with it are basically just window dressing, PVR was the driving force behind it.

My details on the survey are a little sketchy so some of you who have been a little quiet on this one (3E and DJ come to mind) could help out here a little. As I understand it the survey was about evangelism but within it was a question or series of questions that asked about Canada going it alone. Those who got the survey could post those questions for us for clarity sake.

Anyways, this idea went over like a ham sandwich at Jewish wedding or to keep my analogies Canadian like a Maple leaf jersey at the Bell centre. The author was hauled in front of the Canadian district superintendants at Canada conference, rebuked and told he was out of order and causing dissention, yada yada yada. They slapped him on the wrist and sent him packing, end of story. No independent Canada. You won't be sending your annual dues to 321 Carnarvan St. Hazelwood still has a death grip on Flin Flon and all other parts north of the 49th parallel.

Now my source, who is very close to the family, tells me that PVR has taken this very very badly. It really hurt him and he is astounded at the response and reaction this has generated and feels betrayed by his Canadian bretheren.

If anyone has any more info, step up to the plate but I'm pretty confident that my story is pretty close the way it actually played out.

:)

Bravo Thumper!

How does this compare to what Thad had posted in the deleted thread?

Perhaps it is time for PVR to explore his options. The office of Moderator in the ACOP must be coming up for election soon. :lol

[Maple Leaf]

Hey what about me?

I can testify that Maple Leaf was at Summer Summit, and that he must of went early. He had a back row seat. What's going on? Is Maple Leaf ready to repent and return home?

I followed the admonition of Jesus and took the least seat. It's better to do that than to go direct to the platform, and be asked to go sit with the congregation.

Did I repent for going to Summer Summit? "No." As a matter of fact, I quite enjoyed myself and might take in another service.

Did I return home? "Yes."

[Destiny2]

M L
Thou wast among the missing today,D+J and his wife were there and so was Felicity and her husband............the attendance about the same as yesterday maybe.

[TRIPLE E]

M L
Thou wast among the missing today,D+J and his wife were there and so was Felicity and her husband............the attendance about the same as yesterday maybe.

So is there an average attendance or below average attendance? Curious minds want to know!

[TRIPLE E]

Back to the original start to this thread, I think I have the whole story now on the UPCoC.

There was a letter and a survey sent out to the entire Canadian ministerial constituency. That letter and survey was signed by three different men from different parts of the country but it was unquestionably the brainchild and project of a certain well known former Canadian presbyter who resides on the west coast. The other two names associated with it are basically just window dressing, PVR was the driving force behind it.

My details on the survey are a little sketchy so some of you who have been a little quiet on this one (3E and DJ come to mind) could help out here a little. As I understand it the survey was about evangelism but within it was a question or series of questions that asked about Canada going it alone. Those who got the survey could post those questions for us for clarity sake.

Anyways, this idea went over like a ham sandwich at Jewish wedding or to keep my analogies Canadian like a Maple leaf jersey at the Bell centre. The author was hauled in front of the Canadian district superintendants at Canada conference, rebuked and told he was out of order and causing dissention, yada yada yada. They slapped him on the wrist and sent him packing, end of story. No independent Canada. You won't be sending your annual dues to 321 Carnarvan St. Hazelwood still has a death grip on Flin Flon and all other parts north of the 49th parallel.

Now my source, who is very close to the family, tells me that PVR has taken this very very badly. It really hurt him and he is astounded at the response and reaction this has generated and feels betrayed by his Canadian bretheren.

If anyone has any more info, step up to the plate but I'm pretty confident that my story is pretty close the way it actually played out.

:)

I had my survey all ready to send in but it only got as far as my garbage can!

Like the TV resolution this notion of a Canada Only Org is going to take awhile!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Bravo Thumper!

How does this compare to what Thad had posted in the deleted thread?

Perhaps it is time for PVR to explore his options. The office of Moderator in the ACOP must be coming up for election soon. :lol

The deleted thread told of how Hazelwood was alarmed at a seperate Canada. Sources told of two departments running around like Chicken Little. The thread was deleted due to hijacking and bad attitudes and eventually led to two being banned.

Thad has removed himself from our company, so perhaps this new discussion may bring him back.

[Maple Leaf]

The deleted thread told of how Hazelwood was alarmed at a seperate Canada. Sources told of two departments running around like Chicken Little. The thread was deleted due to hijacking and bad attitudes and eventually led to two being banned.

Thad has removed himself from our company, so perhaps this new discussion may bring him back.

Thanks for the clarification.

Hazelwood caring about Canada seems like a bit of a stretch.

Thad's welcome in the Canadian coliseum anytime, as long as he can take a hit, throw an elbow, and drop the gloves from time to time. :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash

[TrueNorth]

Back to the original start to this thread, I think I have the whole story now on the UPCoC.

There was a letter and a survey sent out to the entire Canadian ministerial constituency. That letter and survey was signed by three different men from different parts of the country but it was unquestionably the brainchild and project of a certain well known former Canadian presbyter who resides on the west coast. The other two names associated with it are basically just window dressing, PVR was the driving force behind it.

My details on the survey are a little sketchy so some of you who have been a little quiet on this one (3E and DJ come to mind) could help out here a little. As I understand it the survey was about evangelism but within it was a question or series of questions that asked about Canada going it alone. Those who got the survey could post those questions for us for clarity sake.

Anyways, this idea went over like a ham sandwich at Jewish wedding or to keep my analogies Canadian like a Maple leaf jersey at the Bell centre. The author was hauled in front of the Canadian district superintendants at Canada conference, rebuked and told he was out of order and causing dissention, yada yada yada. They slapped him on the wrist and sent him packing, end of story. No independent Canada. You won't be sending your annual dues to 321 Carnarvan St. Hazelwood still has a death grip on Flin Flon and all other parts north of the 49th parallel.

Now my source, who is very close to the family, tells me that PVR has taken this very very badly. It really hurt him and he is astounded at the response and reaction this has generated and feels betrayed by his Canadian bretheren.

If anyone has any more info, step up to the plate but I'm pretty confident that my story is pretty close the way it actually played out.

:)

My sources tell me that the section in red is stated more strongly than what actually occurred. More like a pat on the back and please be a good boy.

If he feels betrayed it is because he tried to create and champion a cause that no one else wants to fight for.

IMHO it was all about power.

[TrueNorth]

M L
Thou wast among the missing today,D+J and his wife were there and so was Felicity and her husband............the attendance about the same as yesterday maybe.

Did the elder speak for 90 minutes again? What's up with that?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Thanks for the clarification.

Hazelwood caring about Canada seems like a bit of a stretch.

Thad's welcome in the Canadian coliseum anytime, as long as he can take a hit, throw an elbow, and drop the gloves from time to time. :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash :Nhl_crash

Seems he is intent to hang his jersey in the rafters friend.

I will try to call him as I have a $$ transaction with him and owe him $30 for a hat for MrsBoomm.

[Maple Leaf]

M L
Thou wast among the missing today,D+J and his wife were there and so was Felicity and her husband............the attendance about the same as yesterday maybe.


I have spent most of the day at my desk. A dreary way to spend a sunny day. The only reprieve was my backyard visitor.


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/BackyardVisitor.jpg


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/BackyardVisitor2.jpg

[Felicity]

Dear Friends:


Today, I went to Summer Summit for the first time in years.


Did I see D&J there? Nope!


Did I see TripleE there? Nope!


Did I see Wally there? Nope!


Did I see SecretPlace there? Nope!


Did I see Pelet there? Nope!


Did I see Destiny there? Nope!


Did I see SisM there? Nope!


Did I see Frank there? Nope!


Who did I see there?


Why, I saw Felicity at the Summer Summit. That's who I saw there.Yep, I've been to every service except to hear the pre-11 AM devotional speakers.

I've gotten so many hugs and everybody has been so super friendly and warm and I'm having such a great time!!
Felicity was as fashionable as ever: fashionably late (Of the 130 people there, she was the 125th to arrive); and fashionably attired (Her walker matched her outfit perfectly). :lol

Fashionable as ever? :rolleyes: "Late" is never fashionable really but I was late because I was traveling with my mom. She's habitually late. So that's why. :D

But Bro. ML dear ...... IF you'd been there this morning you would have taken note I'm sure ...... that I arrived on time, in fact a little early with TB.

BTW ...... D&J are now in attendance and the Pelets were there last night! You would have seen them had you been there. :p :)

And it was very nice seeing you! Hopefully you'll get back for another service. The Urquharts were there this morning as well. I was SO happy to get a chance to see them and to talk with Sis. U. She's right up there among my favorites alongside your grandmother. :thumbsup

[Felicity]

The only thing better than a moonlit Belleisle Bay is the quality of the people who live on its shores, whether you're on a hill overlooking it, or in the village close beside it.*QUALITY* is the word that comes to mind for sure. :)

[Felicity]

Sis. Destiny.......

I didn't see you and your mom until the end of the service and wanted to get a chance to talk with you but there were other people waiting to speak with me and I never got the chance.

Hopefully, I'll see you before the weekend is over.

[D&J]

Awesome time for what I have been at!!

Rev. Kinsey did an awesome job last night!! Powerful in my estimation!

Bro. Trapani was good this morning, the way he wrapped it all together at the end was awesome!!

[Barb]

M L
Thou wast among the missing today,D+J and his wife were there and so was Felicity and her husband............the attendance about the same as yesterday maybe.

Mother D...how are you, girl?! :kittyhug

[Thumper]

Bravo Thumper!

How does this compare to what Thad had posted in the deleted thread?

Perhaps it is time for PVR to explore his options. The office of Moderator in the ACOP must be coming up for election soon. :lol


I think Thad's version had more Hazelwood in it than was actually reality. But knowing who news can be twisted as it makes its way across the border we should cut Thad some slack on this one. There was definately a story and apparently a fair bit of buzz until Canada conference.

Do you think the ACOP is ready for hats????

[Thumper]

I had my survey all ready to send in but it only got as far as my garbage can!

Like the TV resolution this notion of a Canada Only Org is going to take awhile!

You are not alone. Word is that very few of the surveys were returned.

[Thumper]

My sources tell me that the section in red is stated more strongly than what actually occurred. More like a pat on the back and please be a good boy.

If he feels betrayed it is because he tried to create and champion a cause that no one else wants to fight for.

IMHO it was all about power.

That may be the case but that is not the way it was received and that is not the way it is being repeated by the alleged rebukee (I know thats not a word).

Someone who has believed that he was the pastor of the pastors in a district for as many years as he was DS is unlikely to take any kind dismisal,no matter how gentle, as anything but a rebuke.

[Thumper]

My sources tell me that the section in red is stated more strongly than what actually occurred. More like a pat on the back and please be a good boy.

If he feels betrayed it is because he tried to create and champion a cause that no one else wants to fight for.

IMHO it was all about power.

Of this I have little doubt:)

[Thumper]

Well Thumper, thou hast the pulse of things pretty well!:thumbsup


Not bad for a guy sitting on the side of the road in a broken down Yugo throwing rocks at the big shiny buick.:)

[ALVIN]

You are not alone. Word is that very few of the surveys were returned.

Word is that the superintendent of Canada's largest district sent a message to the ministers of the district to disregard the letter and survey.

[ALVIN]

My sources tell me that the section in red is stated more strongly than what actually occurred. More like a pat on the back and please be a good boy.

If he feels betrayed it is because he tried to create and champion a cause that no one else wants to fight for.

IMHO it was all about power.

Thumper's sources seem to be better connected than yours. Is it really true that an elder statesman of Pentecost in Canada would be told to "be a good boy?" Patronization is not a fruit of the Spirit.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when no one wanted to fight for the cause of evangelism in Canada. Your humble opinion casts a shadow on the reputation of a man whose Bible you and I probably aren't fit to carry.

[Thumper]

Word is that the superintendent of Canada's largest district sent a message to the ministers of the district to disregard the letter and survey.

I had heard the same thing but from a different source than where I have gotten most of the rest of this.

I really wish Guy (aka Wally) would chime in on this. I suspect he could provide even more insight than has been provided already

[Thumper]

Thumper's sources seem to be better connected than yours. Is it really true that an elder statesman of Pentecost in Canada would be told to "be a good boy?" Patronization is not a fruit of the Spirit.

It's a pretty sad state of affairs when no one wanted to fight for the cause of evangelism in Canada. Your humble opinion casts a shadow on the reputation of a man whose Bible you and I probably aren't fit to carry.

I don't know that that is true. I suspect that the story is told just a little bit different depending on which side of the conference table you are sitting on.

:D

[Broken]

Word is that the superintendent of Canada's largest district sent a message to the ministers of the district to disregard the letter and survey.


Word was right a message went to the minister's of Canada in O___ not to say that message was right and in the right spirit. If a survey wanted to be sent that is well and swell- you or I could send one out if we chose. It is optional to respond.


The message stated it would be covered at Canada Conference- needless to say the survey was not beat to death so could anyone please stand up and ask if the individual who sent the message out asked his fellow ministers to disregard his notice and apologize for any direction he gave.

Ministers have a right to respond- garbage can or not - I don't think it is anything to be proud of if you didn't respond or are for an issue that is controversial...there is and will be a time to say "yes" or "no"

We get mad at our Saints for acting like that! don't we?

[Maple Leaf]

Word was right a message went to the minister's of Canada in O___ not to say that message was right and in the right spirit. If a survey wanted to be sent that is well and swell- you or I could send one out if we chose. It is optional to respond.


The message stated it would be covered at Canada Conference- needless to say the survey was not beat to death so could anyone please stand up and ask if the individual who sent the message out asked his fellow ministers to disregard his notice and apologize for any direction he gave.

Ministers have a right to respond- garbage can or not - I don't think it is anything to be proud of if you didn't respond or are for an issue that is controversial...there is and will be a time to say "yes" or "no"

We get mad at our Saints for acting like that! don't we?


If every member has the right to send out surveys, without official sanction, the end result is chaos. One would have to ask why the survey wasn't submitted to the Board of the UPCC before distribution? Was there an intentional disregard for the Board?

Did the author send the letter from an official capacity (Does the author(s) hold any office in the UPCC?), or did he (they) send it as a concerned member? What was on the letterhead?

Why do mad preachers always blame the saints for their condition?

[Broken]

Why do mad preachers always blame the saints for their condition?


That makes me wonder Mapleleaf also why do they? I lived long enough to see it from both sides!

No offense to any preacher or saint!

I wished sometimes the saints would take a stand and line up the preacher:lol

[Felicity]

Fellowship and lunch at the Delta after the morning service. Didn't get home until after 3. :)

Fantastic service last night! Worship was great! Bro. Kinsey did a great job preaching. Bro. D&J was chosen to be "Jesus" - ran through a pack of devils. Woohoo! :lol

The Dip was chosen for fellowship and lunch after service and we didn't get home until way after 12.

Bro. Kinsey is having to leave early :( so he's preaching this morning instead of tonight. I think Bro. Trapani is going to be the evening speaker.

I'm having an awesome time. There are no words to describe how great it's been. Well, actually there are - maybe I'll do that later!

[Maple Leaf]

Why do mad preachers always blame the saints for their condition?


That makes me wonder Mapleleaf also why do they? I lived long enough to see it from both sides!

No offense to any preacher or saint!

I wished sometimes the saints would take a stand and line up the preacher:lol

Pastors lead churches by a Divine calling and by the permission of the people. (If the people don't show up tomorrow morning, the man in the dark suit is not a pastor, he's just a janitor with big hair.)

In a local congregation, the political power belongs to the majority of the people, a fact which often frustrates the minority groups who want to dominate a congregation. There's nothing that has the ability to wag like a tail trying to move a dog, or a tongue trying to control a congregation.

Lining up a preacher is God's job, and He is good at His work, but saints have the ability to choose the teacher they will submit themselves to.

All this pastoral power that is fodder for ten thousand Internet discussions is a myth. Any saint that ain't happy with their shepherd will have very little difficulty in finding a new and improved shepherd to lead them to fresh green pastures.

[Broken]

Pastors lead churches by a Divine calling and by the permission of the people. (If the people don't show up tomorrow morning, the man in the dark suit is not a pastor, he's just a janitor with big hair.)

In a local congregation, the political power belongs to the majority of the people, a fact which often frustrates the minority groups who want to dominate a congregation. There's nothing that has the ability to wag like a tail trying to move a dog, or a tongue trying to control a congregation.

Lining up a preacher is God's job, and He is good at His work, but saints have the ability to choose the teacher they will submit themselves to.

All this pastoral power that is fodder for ten thousand Internet discussions is a myth. Any saint that ain't happy with their shepherd will have very little difficulty in finding a new and improved shepherd to lead them to fresh green pastures.


Thanks for that lesson - :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

I've seen a lot of janitor's!

All I can say is God is merciful in a lot of way's...thank you Lord for Grace & Mercy!

[Coonskinner]

Pastors lead churches by a Divine calling and by the permission of the people. (If the people don't show up tomorrow morning, the man in the dark suit is not a pastor, he's just a janitor with big hair.)

In a local congregation, the political power belongs to the majority of the people, a fact which often frustrates the minority groups who want to dominate a congregation. There's nothing that has the ability to wag like a tail trying to move a dog, or a tongue trying to control a congregation.

Lining up a preacher is God's job, and He is good at His work, but saints have the ability to choose the teacher they will submit themselves to.

All this pastoral power that is fodder for ten thousand Internet discussions is a myth. Any saint that ain't happy with their shepherd will have very little difficulty in finding a new and improved shepherd to lead them to fresh green pastures.

Once again Maple Leaf rings the proverbial golden bell.

This fact is what makes it a little hard for me to swallow all this propaganda about the epidemic of spiritual abuse sweeping Pentecost.:)

[Pragmatist]

Once again Maple Leaf rings the proverbial golden bell.

This fact is what makes it a little hard for me to swallow all this propaganda about the epidemic of spiritual abuse sweeping Pentecost.:)

I think it depends on the person. Some people are more susceptible to control and fear. Others would walk out the door at the first hint of it. The latter don't understand the former.

[ALVIN]

Once again Maple Leaf rings the proverbial golden bell.

This fact is what makes it a little hard for me to swallow all this propaganda about the epidemic of spiritual abuse sweeping Pentecost.:)

Internet forums are like some testimony services. They give a voice to people that no one will listen to at any other time. In the real world you have to be credible for people to respect your opinion. On the Internet all you need is a modem and a few birds of a feather.

[ALVIN]

Fellowship and lunch at the Delta after the morning service. Didn't get home until after 3. :)

Fantastic service last night! Worship was great! Bro. Kinsey did a great job preaching. Bro. D&J was chosen to be "Jesus" - ran through a pack of devils. Woohoo! :lol

The Dip was chosen for fellowship and lunch after service and we didn't get home until way after 12.

Bro. Kinsey is having to leave early :( so he's preaching this morning instead of tonight. I think Bro. Trapani is going to be the evening speaker.

I'm having an awesome time. There are no words to describe how great it's been. Well, actually there are - maybe I'll do that later!


Just exactly who is the person that you refer to as "The Dip?"

[Maple Leaf]

First off... y'all need a spelling lesson... it's FLAVOR... but anyway...



So tell me... what is the 'flavour' of Canada?

Does Canada have a national dish?

If Canada were a food, what would it taste like?

My apologies for carrying this question to this thread. I wanted to answer, but am on a one man mission to make this the longest thread on AFF.

Here are some selections should you choose to go Canadian:

From Canada's CN Tower (http://www.cntower.ca/portal/SmartDefault.aspx?at=1400)

Appetizers

WILD MUSHROOM AND VIDALIA ONION BISQUE, Quebec ash rolled goat's cheese, cracked olive crostini, tarragon crème fraiche

SEARED BREAST OF NIPPISSING GAME FARM'S QUAIL
Rhubarb sponge cake, fois gras, Flat Rock Cellars Pinot Noir vinegar reduction

BRIAN FANNING'S SMOKED ATLANTIC SALMON, Extra virgin olive oil, caper berries and 360 pumpernickel bread

TRIO OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COCKTAIL, jumbo lump crab, maritime lobster, sweet rock shrimp Champagne vinaigrette, tarragon aioli, horseradish cocktail sauce


Mains

PAN SEARED FILLET OF ATLANTIC SALMON ON WILTED BABY SPINACH
Creamer potatoes, coriander sprouts, toasted pumpkin seeds, warm green tomato vinaigrette

POACHED 1 ½ LB ATLANTIC LOBSTER
Buttered asparagus and fingerling potatoes, grilled lemon and tarragon beurre blanc

SLOW ROASTED, AGED, CANADIAN AAA PRIME RIB OF BEEF
Baked potato, summer vegetables and natural jus

GRILLED CANADIAN AAA STRIPLOIN STEAK AND GUINNESS BRAISED BEEF SHORT RIBS
Aged Maple Dale cheddar mash, roasted onion Swiss chard, horseradish gremolatta

STEAK AND LOBSTER
Grilled 8oz Canadian AAA Beef Tenderloin and a Steamed 11/2 lb Atlantic Lobster with garlic beurre blanc and a cabernet jus


Desserts

DARK CHOCOLATE TOWER WITH PRESERVED SUMMER FRUITS, raspberry vanilla crème Anglaise

QUEBEC MAPLE SYRUP PIE WITH BUTTERMILK PRALINE ICE CREAM
Vanilla bean crème fraiche

NIAGARA PEACH AND STRAWBERRY CRUMBLE
Cinnamon crème Anglaise, vanilla ice cream



Cheese Selection

FOUR-YEAR-OLD CANADIAN CHEDDAR (50G)
(A firm ripened cow's milk cheese, aged four years, it has a pleasantly sharp taste)

BLEU ERMITE (50G)
(Semi soft cow's milk blue aged three months to develop mellow complex flavours)

QUEBEC OKA (50G)
(A semi soft pasteurized cow's milk cheese aged two months in the Trappist monks' cellars)

ST. MAURE DU MANOIR (50G)
(Quebec's Maison Chaput, raw goat's milk cheese rolled in ash)

[Maple Leaf]

I would go with:

TRIO OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COCKTAIL, jumbo lump crab, maritime lobster, sweet rock shrimp Champagne vinaigrette, tarragon aioli, horseradish cocktail sauce

PAN SEARED FILLET OF ATLANTIC SALMON ON WILTED BABY SPINACH
Creamer potatoes, coriander sprouts, toasted pumpkin seeds, warm green tomato vinaigrette

QUEBEC MAPLE SYRUP PIE WITH BUTTERMILK PRALINE ICE CREAM
Vanilla bean crème fraiche

And then, I would request a side of FIDDLEHEADS, lightly cooked, with butter and vinegar.

Aside from beverages, this feast should slide in just under $100 CDN, plus tax and tip, for a total of approximately $150 CDN for the complete dining experience.

[Coonskinner]

Internet forums are like some testimony services. They give a voice to people that no one will listen to at any other time. In the real world you have to be credible for people to respect your opinion. On the Internet all you need is a modem and a few birds of a feather.

A thousand Amens, my Brother.

And the most comical thing about the whole deal is the fact that some imagine that the agreement they find somewhere on the edge of the lunatic fringe is tantamount to changing the face of the whole movement.

I guess it's all a matter of perspective.:)

[Coonskinner]

I would go with:

TRIO OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COCKTAIL, jumbo lump crab, maritime lobster, sweet rock shrimp Champagne vinaigrette, tarragon aioli, horseradish cocktail sauce

PAN SEARED FILLET OF ATLANTIC SALMON ON WILTED BABY SPINACH
Creamer potatoes, coriander sprouts, toasted pumpkin seeds, warm green tomato vinaigrette

QUEBEC MAPLE SYRUP PIE WITH BUTTERMILK PRALINE ICE CREAM
Vanilla bean crème fraiche

And then, I would request a side of FIDDLEHEADS, lightly cooked with butter and vinegar.

Aside from beverages, this feast should slide in just under $100 CDN, plus tax and tip, for a total of approximately $150 CDN for the complete dining experience.

You are making me hingry, Maple.

My wife is gone today, running a fund raiser for the youth, and that can of raviolis didn't quite cut it.

[Maple Leaf]

You are making me hingry, Maple.

My wife is gone today, running a fund raiser for the youth, and that can of raviolis didn't quite cut it.

Here is an inside view of the historic Saint John City Market, opened in 1876, the oldest continuing farmer's market in Canada. You'll want to take note of the structure of the rafters; Saint John was a city of shipbuilders, and it shows. The moose head is from a local moose killed in 1910. The market butcher kept the head for its aesthetic value. I'm sure you can agree with his taste in decorating.

Just past the sign on the right hand side, the one that bears silent testimony to the cultural demand of separation between the sexes, is a small establishment that sells seafood chowder. It is served in a styrofoam bowl, and you'll have to eat it with a plastic spoon, but it's so good you'll be tempted to eat the bowl when you're done.


http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/CityMarket.jpg

[TrueNorth]

Word was right a message went to the minister's of Canada in O___ not to say that message was right and in the right spirit. If a survey wanted to be sent that is well and swell- you or I could send one out if we chose. It is optional to respond.


The message stated it would be covered at Canada Conference- needless to say the survey was not beat to death so could anyone please stand up and ask if the individual who sent the message out asked his fellow ministers to disregard his notice and apologize for any direction he gave.

Ministers have a right to respond- garbage can or not - I don't think it is anything to be proud of if you didn't respond or are for an issue that is controversial...there is and will be a time to say "yes" or "no"

We get mad at our Saints for acting like that! don't we?

Kudos to the Bishop of O for having the confidence of his constituency and the alacrity of mind to deal with this matter. His was not the only District to do this.
The issues raised were dealt with at Canada Conference - and as I heard it, every minister in Canada will receive a letter of explanation.
The problem with the survey was that it was misleading - to the casual reader it would seem to have been authorized by the UPCC and authored by the "Honorary Board" which by the way the UPCC does not have.
The whole thing reminds me of an old leadership statement - If you think you are leading and nobody is following you are merely taking a walk. The elder(s) discovered that they were merely taking a walk. For one in particular it is time to quit trying to get others to lick their particular candy stick.

[Felicity]

I would go with:

TRIO OF ATLANTIC SEAFOOD COCKTAIL, jumbo lump crab, maritime lobster, sweet rock shrimp Champagne vinaigrette, tarragon aioli, horseradish cocktail sauce

PAN SEARED FILLET OF ATLANTIC SALMON ON WILTED BABY SPINACH
Creamer potatoes, coriander sprouts, toasted pumpkin seeds, warm green tomato vinaigrette

QUEBEC MAPLE SYRUP PIE WITH BUTTERMILK PRALINE ICE CREAM
Vanilla bean crème fraiche

And then, I would request a side of FIDDLEHEADS, lightly cooked, with butter and vinegar.

Aside from beverages, this feast should slide in just under $100 CDN, plus tax and tip, for a total of approximately $150 CDN for the complete dining experience.Oh my word!!

Come to my place for supper. I'll feed you better and for free! :D

[Broken]

Kudos to the Bishop of O for having the confidence of his constituency and the alacrity of mind to deal with this matter. His was not the only District to do this.
The issues raised were dealt with at Canada Conference - and as I heard it, every minister in Canada will receive a letter of explanation.
The problem with the survey was that it was misleading - to the casual reader it would seem to have been authorized by the UPCC and authored by the "Honorary Board" which by the way the UPCC does not have.
The whole thing reminds me of an old leadership statement - If you think you are leading and nobody is following you are merely taking a walk. The elder(s) discovered that they were merely taking a walk. For one in particular it is time to quit trying to get others to lick their particular candy stick.


So sad to be that disrespectful to our elders! Nothing like one in particular if he should go off the scene today...would it be said he was a great man instead of the words that were just said.

[Barb]

Oh my word!!

Come to my place for supper. I'll feed you better and for free! :D

Heavens, I hope so!! I didn't want to tell ML that none of that sounded good to me, but then I'm a yankee...:usa

3E tried to tell me yesterday about fries w/gravy and cheese curds...the gravy I can do and love, but cheese curds?! I don't know...:heeheehee

[Felicity]

I went shopping today -- oh my did I ever! I found the best shop. If I'd known it was here and what it was like I wouldn't have bought a thing until I got here. The kind of clothes I like and a big sale!

Had a ball! My mom sat and watched me and gave me honest opinions. I ended up buying at least 6 new outfits! Going back next week! :thumbsup

:D

[D&J]

Fantastic service last night! Worship was great! Bro. Kinsey did a great job preaching. Bro. D&J was chosen to be "Jesus" - ran through a pack of devils. Woohoo! :lol

Wow, last night was totally awesome from the video presentation about Jesus at the first until the very end [except for the offering :killinme]. Bro Kinsey did an incredible job, in my mind it was exactly what our district has needed for a long time. It is too bad he had to leave early.

I did not get there this morning but from all reports Bro. Kinsay did a great job again this morning!

[TrueNorth]

So sad to be that disrespectful to our elders! Nothing like one in particular if he should go off the scene today...would it be said he was a great man instead of the words that were just said.

ROTFL - the half has not been told.
Do you speak as cryptically as you write. I'm still trying to figure out your intent.
If it had been anyone but elders who pulled the stunt you would have been able to see red lights in the sky from the explosion.
BTW, nobody said that they weren't great men. Everybody is entitled to a no-brainer.

[Maple Leaf]

When the Sun smiles with the golden warmth of a new morning on the rocky crags that mark the eastern boundary of our great nation, Canada will be 140 years old.

Canada's motto "A Mari usque ad Mare" (From sea to sea) is based on biblical scripture: "He shall have dominion from sea to sea and from the river unto the ends of the earth (Psalm 72:8)". Our hope and prayer this Canada Day is that our motto will become our reality in our generation. Our holy aspiration is that Jesus Christ will be Lord in Canada from sea to sea to sea.

May God bless our nation with the fulfilment of the prophet's promise: "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:" May God grant that the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ would shine into every home in our nation, and that every Canadian believer would experience their own personal Pentecost in Canada.

May the Gospel of Christ shine across our land bringing light to every person, peoples, and language in our multicultural mosaic. May the people of the seas, forests, cities, plains, and tundra hear the name of Jesus and live. God, let the Day of Pentecost fully come to this land we love.

May this Canada Day find you in the house of God, and may we all find there the empowerment to change our nation with our prayers and our witness.

Happy Canada Day

[Ron]

When the Sun smiles with the golden warmth of a new morning on the rocky crags that mark the eastern boundary of our great nation, Canada will be 140 years old.

Canada's motto "A Mari usque ad Mare" (From sea to sea) is based on biblical scripture: "He shall have dominion from sea to sea and from the river unto the ends of the earth (Psalm 72:8)". Our hope and prayer this Canada Day is that our motto will become our reality in our generation. Our holy aspiration is that Jesus Christ will be Lord in Canada from sea to sea to sea.

May God bless our nation with the fulfilment of the prophet's promise: "And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh:" May God grant that the light of the Gospel of Jesus Christ would shine into every home in our nation, and that every Canadian believer would experience their own personal Pentecost in Canada.

May the Gospel of Christ shine across our land bringing light to every person, peoples, and language in our multicultural mosaic. May the people of the seas, forests, cities, plains, and tundra hear the name of Jesus and live. God, let the Day of Pentecost fully come to this land we love.

May this Canada Day find you in the house of God, and may we all find there the empowerment to change our nation with our prayers and our witness.

Happy Canada Day

Amen! Well said!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Heavens, I hope so!! I didn't want to tell ML that none of that sounded good to me, but then I'm a yankee...:usa

3E tried to tell me yesterday about fries w/gravy and cheese curds...the gravy I can do and love, but cheese curds?! I don't know...:heeheehee

Poutine is a big deal in Quebec. Bill Clinton stopped his campaign in 1992 to have a plate full.

I liked ML's section from The CN Tower.

[Monkeyman]

Poutine is a big deal in Quebec. Bill Clinton stopped his campaign in 1992 to have a plate full.

I liked ML's section from The CN Tower.Can't stand the poutine, its of the devil...but they have converted me to put gravy on fries, mmm!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Can't stand the poutine, its of the devil...but they have converted me to put gravy on fries, mmm!

do you eat Ketchup on Potato Chips?

[Ron]

Fries with Vinegar-YUM!!!

[Barb]

Fries with Vinegar-YUM!!!

Now I ate that a hundred years ago when my aunt and uncle lived in Hamilton...very good.

[Destiny2]

Happy Birthday Canada!!

[Barb]

Happy Birthday Canada!!

Hello, Mother D...:)

[TRIPLE E]

Hello, Mother D...:)

Our local newpaper is in its 139th year,one year after confederation! WOW!

Happy Canada Day to all our Canadians at home and abroad,we are celebrating with a Canada Day BBQ and cake after church this morning!

[Felicity]

Wow, last night was totally awesome from the video presentation about Jesus at the first until the very end [except for the offering :killinme]. Bro Kinsey did an incredible job, in my mind it was exactly what our district has needed for a long time. It is too bad he had to leave early.

I did not get there this morning but from all reports Bro. Kinsay did a great job again this morning!I agree. Bro. Kinsey did a great job in the morning. We were late so I only heard about half the message but it was very good. I hated that he had to leave as well.

About the offering..... :) ....if I'd been asked to do what Sis. L and Sis. B were asked to I would have been so totally mortified and might have resisted a little. They were very gracious! :thumbsup

(But then what can you do really other than that? ;))

[Barb]

Our local newpaper is in its 139th year,one year after confederation! WOW!

Happy Canada Day to all our Canadians at home and abroad,we are celebrating with a Canada Day BBQ and cake after church this morning!

That is something, 3E...have a great holiday!!:canada

[Maple Leaf]

xEWeOY6r8qE

[Ron]

xEWeOY6r8qE

You should post this in the Canada Day thread!

[Maple Leaf]

Every time I comment on the sad state of health care in the nation below us I get called a socialist. In order to avoid any harm to my self esteem I have decided to quote an American expert on the American Health Care system.

By Carla K. Johnson
ASSOCIATED PRESS

2:35 p.m. May 15, 2007

CHICAGO – The U.S. health care system is “a dysfunctional mess” and politicians who insist otherwise look ignorant, according to a medical journal essay by a prominent ethicist at the National Institutes of Health.

“If a politician declares that the United States has the best health care system in the world today, he or she looks cluelessrather than patriotic or authoritative,” Dr. Ezekiel Emanuel wrote in Wednesday's Journal of the American Medical Association.

[Ron]

Every time I comment on the sad state of health care in the nation below us I get called a socialist. In order to avoid any harm to my self esteem I have decided to quote an American expert on the American Health Care system.


Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


Sounds like the Apostles were a little Socialistic in their thinking!

[TRIPLE E]

xEWeOY6r8qE

Great video even if Harper is in it!

[Nina]

Act 2:44 And all that believed were together, and had all things common;
Act 2:45 And sold their possessions and goods, and parted them to all men, as every man had need.

Act 4:32 And the multitude of them that believed were of one heart and of one soul: neither said any of them that aught of the things which he possessed was his own; but they had all things common.
Act 4:33 And with great power gave the apostles witness of the resurrection of the Lord Jesus: and great grace was upon them all.
Act 4:34 Neither was there any among them that lacked: for as many as were possessors of lands or houses sold them, and brought the prices of the things that were sold,
Act 4:35 And laid them down at the apostles' feet: and distribution was made unto every man according as he had need.


Sounds like the Apostles were a little Socialistic in their thinking!

Only because they wanted to be.

Nina

[The Senator]

Great video even if Harper is in it!

A great video, partly because Prime Minister Harper is in it. The Prime Minister is guiding our nation with a steady hand, an eye for the future, and with an appreciation for our role on the world stage. A refreshing change after the embarrassing performance of the last government.

Unemployment is down.

http://www.statcan.ca/english/Subjects/Labour/LFS/c070608d.gif

Canadian Dollar is up.

http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/graphs/us.gif

The GST is down. The federal debt is down.

If the writ is dropped tomorrow, my vote will be Conservative.

[Destiny2]

Hello, Mother D...:)

Good morning Barb from sunny N.B. Full day yesterday to celebrate Canada day.. my mom and I drove to a pretty part of the province to have morning service with my second son and his family( great Acts 2;38 message) followed by a pot luck meal complete with fresh strawberry shortcake ,yummy . Night service at my own church and lastly fireworks to end the day! God is good!

[ALVIN]

Good morning Barb from sunny N.B. Full day yesterday to celebrate Canada day.. my mom and I drove to a pretty part of the province to have morning service with my second son and his family( great Acts 2;38 message) followed by a pot luck meal complete with fresh strawberry shortcake ,yummy . Night service at my own church and lastly fireworks to end the day! God is good!

Ma'am,

If you're speaking of who I think you are, I have to ask, "Fer or agin it?"

From what version?

KJV "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (Sanctioned by God, used by true believers everywhere.)

PPHV "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, and thou mightest be saved if thou affirmst the doctrines and standards all the days that the Lord thy God giveth thee." (Sanctioned by the UPCI and Independent Conservatives)

FSV "Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, and being once saved, thou shalt forevermore be saved." (The preferred translation of the ACOP and ReformedDave)

NDV "Then Peter said unto them, Repent (Of any six of the ten major sins), and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ (Or the Divine Titles of your choice) for the remission of sins, and ye shall (In the optional tense) receive the gift of the Holy Ghost." (The official translation of non-denominational churches)

[Felicity]

LOL! :lol

[D&J]

Well, another Summer Summit over. Pretty good time overall. Good preaching, good worship, and a great offering for Northeast Christian College.

Also, the praise team from Capital Community Church did and awesome job!

[Felicity]

I had an awesome time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Truly Blessed]

Dear Friends:


Today, I went to Summer Summit for the first time in years.


Did I see D&J there? Nope!


Did I see TripleE there? Nope!


Did I see Wally there? Nope!


Did I see SecretPlace there? Nope!


Did I see Pelet there? Nope!


Did I see Destiny there? Nope!


Did I see SisM there? Nope!


Did I see Frank there? Nope!


Who did I see there?


Why, I saw Felicity at the Summer Summit. That's who I saw there.


Felicity was as fashionable as ever: fashionably late (Of the 130 people there, she was the 125th to arrive); and fashionably attired (Her walker matched her outfit perfectly). :lolML, you have to go more than once to see folks. I didn't get to see you because I was recovering from my accident enroute from Maine to NB. I rolled the car at 55mph but fortunately I landed in a swampy area a good distance from any trees. I was truly a holy roller for a few seconds at least. :)

Actually I got to reconnect with many people, who were very gracious, kind, and welcoming to Felicity and I. Actually the fellowship continues as we are getting together with some others who have invited us to lunch or to their homes this week.

Actually I got to see some folks on your list. I saw Destiny and Pelet, and D & J was there, but I have no idea who that is. I didn't see Triple E, but he may have been there. I saw your grandmother from a distance, but regret that I never got to speak with her. She is one of my favorite people!

[CC1]

TB,

I am glad you safe after that car accident. To roll a car at that speed it is a miracle you are fine.

Is this Summer Summit pit stop part of the "UPC Reunificiation Tour" for Felicity?

I am calling her trip to Tampa for GC the "Mother and Daughter Reunion"!!! LOL

[Felicity]

TB,

I am glad you safe after that car accident. To roll a car at that speed it is a miracle you are fine.

The car was totalled and he walked away without a scratch. Definitely a miracle!

[Felicity]

Is this Summer Summit pit stop part of the "UPC Reunificiation Tour" for Felicity?

I am calling her trip to Tampa for GC the "Mother and Daughter Reunion"!!! LOLIf Tampa is anything like this week has been it's going to be awesome! I can't wait.

I'm emotionally drained though with all the warmth, love, friendliness, prayer, and the dozens of hugs I received during the week.

Truly, there's nothing like the family of God!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

The car was totalled and he walked away without a scratch. Definitely a miracle!

WOW- I have driven part of the noman's land above Portland, Maine and his being unharmed is good news indeed.

[Barb]

ML, you have to go more than once to see folks. I didn't get to see you because I was recovering from my accident enroute from Maine to NB. I rolled the car at 55mph but fortunately I landed in a swampy area a good distance from any trees. I was truly a holy roller for a few seconds at least. :)

Actually I got to reconnect with many people, who were very gracious, kind, and welcoming to Felicity and I. Actually the fellowship continues as we are getting together with some others who have invited us to lunch or to their homes this week.

Actually I got to see some folks on your list. I saw Destiny and Pelet, and D & J was there, but I have no idea who that is. I didn't see Triple E, but he may have been there. I saw your grandmother from a distance, but regret that I never got to speak with her. She is one of my favorite people!

Grateful to the Lord that you are well, Elder, and having a great time with old friends. :)

[Ron]

Good to hear that TB is okay.

[Barb]

Good morning Barb from sunny N.B. Full day yesterday to celebrate Canada day.. my mom and I drove to a pretty part of the province to have morning service with my second son and his family( great Acts 2;38 message) followed by a pot luck meal complete with fresh strawberry shortcake ,yummy . Night service at my own church and lastly fireworks to end the day! God is good!

Glad that all is well, Mother D...praying for you!!:kittyhug

[TRIPLE E]

ML, you have to go more than once to see folks. I didn't get to see you because I was recovering from my accident enroute from Maine to NB. I rolled the car at 55mph but fortunately I landed in a swampy area a good distance from any trees. I was truly a holy roller for a few seconds at least. :)

Actually I got to reconnect with many people, who were very gracious, kind, and welcoming to Felicity and I. Actually the fellowship continues as we are getting together with some others who have invited us to lunch or to their homes this week.

Actually I got to see some folks on your list. I saw Destiny and Pelet, and D & J was there, but I have no idea who that is. I didn't see Triple E, but he may have been there. I saw your grandmother from a distance, but regret that I never got to speak with her. She is one of my favorite people!

No I didn't make it to SS but I have heard nothing but good reports-I'm glad that you and Felicity were able to make it !

[Maple Leaf]

ML, you have to go more than once to see folks. I didn't get to see you because I was recovering from my accident enroute from Maine to NB. I rolled the car at 55mph but fortunately I landed in a swampy area a good distance from any trees. I was truly a holy roller for a few seconds at least. :)

Actually I got to reconnect with many people, who were very gracious, kind, and welcoming to Felicity and I. Actually the fellowship continues as we are getting together with some others who have invited us to lunch or to their homes this week.

Actually I got to see some folks on your list. I saw Destiny and Pelet, and D & J was there, but I have no idea who that is. I didn't see Triple E, but he may have been there. I saw your grandmother from a distance, but regret that I never got to speak with her. She is one of my favorite people!

Your post brought back a memory of RAB. Every year, almost without fail, he would find me at the Cork Campgrounds and tell me, "Brother, this is not a one day camp meeting." I guess old habits die hard.

I have been pondering your mishap on the way to Summer Summit, and I can only come up with one Scriptural precedent. When Balaam was on his way where God didn't want him to go, the angel of the Lord stood in the way, and his vehicle was turned aside into the field.:slaphappy

(Numbers 22:23) "And the ass saw the angel of the Lord standing in the way, and his sword drawn in his hand: and the ass turned aside out of the way, and went into the field: and Balaam smote the ass, to turn her into the way."

One way or the other, I'm glad you came out of the accident without getting your foot crushed, or anything else for that matter. It sounds like you and Felicity were truly blessed to be at Summer Summit. Some of the best people that God has anywhere serve the Lord in the UPC in New Brunswick. I look forward to the day when the present issues that divide will only be a distant memory and we will all worship together once again.

[Barb]

Your post brought back a memory of RAB. Every year, almost without fail, he would find me at the Cork Campgrounds and tell me, "Brother, this is not a one day camp meeting." I guess old habits die hard.

I have been pondering your mishap on the way to Summer Summit, and I can only come up with one Scriptural precedent. When Balaam was on his way where God didn't want him to go, the angel of the Lord stood in the way, and his vehicle was turned aside into the field.:slaphappy



One way or the other, I'm glad you came out of the accident without getting your foot crushed, or anything else for that matter. It sounds like you and Felicity were truly blessed to be at Summer Summit. Some of the best people that God has anywhere serve the Lord in the UPC in New Brunswick. I look forward to the day when the present issues that divide will only be a distant memory and we will all worship together once again.Love this, ML...

[Maple Leaf]

Wow, last night was totally awesome from the video presentation about Jesus at the first until the very end [except for the offering :killinme]. Bro Kinsey did an incredible job, in my mind it was exactly what our district has needed for a long time. It is too bad he had to leave early.

I did not get there this morning but from all reports Bro. Kinsay did a great job again this morning!

Pastor,

This post piqued my curiosity when I first read it, but I forgot to respond. Could you give a brief synopsis of Bro. Kinsey's message(s), and perhaps a few comments of your own as to how the "word" he brought particularly relates to the AD.

[Felicity]

WOW- I have driven part of the noman's land above Portland, Maine and his being unharmed is good news indeed.Later I asked him, "Why on earth did you decide to drive that road?!!! Route #6 is notoriously bad and way out in the boonies like that you're wayyyy more apt to run into wildlife on the highway."

He said that he went that way because of nostalgia. On our trips to the Bangor area we used to travel it some. There are lots of "yes ma'ams" and you can have some fun with those!

You know what those are, right? Where you crest the top of a hill and the road dips sharply. If you hit them just right it's kind of like a rollercoaster ride. :lol

[Felicity]

Pastor,

This post piqued my curiosity when I first read it, but I forgot to respond. Could you give a brief synopsis of Bro. Kinsey's message(s), and perhaps a few comments of your own as to how the "word" he brought particularly relates to the AD.If you had been there ML *ahem* you would have gotten it straight from the horse's mouth. ;) :D

[Rachel]

lol @ Felicity.

SS was great! God is good.

[Felicity]

lol @ Felicity.

SS was great! God is good.I wish you'd come and spoken to me Rachel. I would love to have talked with you. Problem is at times it was almost necessary to take a number and wait in line. :lol

I never saw your mom either. Was she there? Did see your dad a couple times though and got to at least say HI to him.

[Rachel]

I noticed - I almost came over a couple of times but there were so many people who probably wanted to 'catch up.' It's all good! I'm sure there'll be another time where we can 'meet.' :)

Mom was there Thursday & Friday.. She and Shawna headed back to E'dston on Saturday as Shawna took the services there.

[Felicity]

I noticed - I almost came over a couple of times but there were so many people who probably wanted to 'catch up.' It's all good! I'm sure there'll be another time where we can 'meet.' :)

Mom was there Thursday & Friday.. She and Shawna headed back to E'dston on Saturday as Shawna took the services there.My mom was mentioning you and your sister at the table at breakfast this morning. She speaks very well of you! :thumbsup

And my dad mentioned that one of you girls was one of his nurses when he was in the hospital and how nice you were (or was it your sister? not sure).

[Rachel]

aw - We love the elders at the F'ton church. They've been good to us.

Tammy would have been his nurse - She's a phenomenal nurse. She picked the right profession!

[Rachel]

I think I sat in front of you Sunday night though! I should have turned around then.

[D&J]

Pastor,

This post piqued my curiosity when I first read it, but I forgot to respond. Could you give a brief synopsis of Bro. Kinsey's message(s), and perhaps a few comments of your own as to how the "word" he brought particularly relates to the AD.

The thing that stood out in my mind is that we need to break through to another dimension in God. It is not wrong to admit the struggle and the pain that we have all faced in trying to do a work with God in this area but that we need to sing and rejoice in spite of it and allow God to use the resistance and pain to elevate us to a higher level!

It is my own personal opionion that we have been "held back" or have been in a "holding pattern" in this area because of a number of different issues weather they are real or just the vivid imagination of someones fertile mind!

And I think that Bro Kinsey got to it at the end when he started talking about the young people because it is my belief that there is a group of young people arising that have no idea of "history" and that have a powerful hunger for the supernatural power of God and they are and will changing the atmosphere.

I feel the waters a stirring!!

[D&J]

I wish you'd come and spoken to me Rachel. I would love to have talked with you.

It is always a "joy" to talk to Rachel!!!! :killinme

[Maple Leaf]

If you had been there ML *ahem* you would have gotten it straight from the horse's mouth. ;) :D

And, why would I want to do that when I can get the Reader's Digest version right here on AFF?

http://i118.photobucket.com/albums/o104/MapleLeaf_album/horse.jpg

[Rachel]

It is always a "joy" to talk to Rachel!!!! :killinme

haha - Some don't think so!

[D&J]

haha - Some don't think so!

Its the last name that makes it so interesting! :winkgrin