Whaaaaaaatt???? What's happening in Canada??

[TRIPLE E]

I still think AD is a lot more liberal than it's Nova Scotian brethren to the east... or it's Maine brethren to the south.

Me thinks this was an awful big generalization since not all pastors in every district(including the AD) see eye to eye on certain things.

[Mrs. LPW]

What constitutes a pigeon hole?

bump

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

He he, your the best EEE, you crack me up.

On the same topic, if you really want to know how liberal/conservative a district is, go to a Wal-Mart or a mall and look at our women. There is a jean skirt-Tennis shoe ratio formula that exists, use that, and then you will know how liberal a district is. By my count, due to a recent trip to the Regent Mall, conservatisim is still pretty strong in our area!!!

Tennis shoes in 18 inches of slush and snow? How long exactly have you been OUT of California again?

Monkeydude, it is a seasonal thing. In the summer, recount after the galoshes and overcoats are packed away!

:snowman

[Mrs. LPW]

Me thinks this was an awful big generalization since not all pastors in every district(including the AD) see eye to eye on certain things.

ME thinks I'm tired of all this.. since I was only giving my opinion. I still think our district is more liberal than some.. or moderate.. whatever you'd like to call it. I just know it's changed.

[TRIPLE E]

Here is another test for you, try this. Go to Harvey Camp, take your choir, sing, "Silver & Gold" by Kirk Franklin and let me know how that goes for ya! Go to Family Camp and try to lead song service with a song from last, say, 20 years that isn't country in flavor, have at it...you WON'T be asked back, Heeeeeeeeeeeeee!

Obviously I am having some fun with this, that is my nature. I also use different criteria to state whether someone is liberal/mod/con...using my logic (scary) I would say the AD is pretty Moderate.

Your logic is very logical in the most logical sense of the word.
Funny though how some think we are liberal,while others feel like we are conservative.
I was to a certain place once in the States where I was forewarned not to preach the "clothesline" as the AD preachers had a name for being "clothesline" preachers.
:bells

[Monkeyman]

Tennis shoes in 18 inches of slush and snow? How long exactly have you been OUT of California again?

Monkeydude, it is a seasonal thing. In the summer, recount after the galoshes and overcoats are packed away!

:snowmanBOOMM, you'd be surprised at what I have seen at our malls!!! He heeeeee!

I will be back in Cali in a few days, first stop...In-N-Out Burger!!!!! Woohoooo! Gllloooory!

[TRIPLE E]

ME thinks I'm tired of all this.. since I was only giving my opinion. I still think our district is more liberal than some.. or moderate.. whatever you'd like to call it. I just know it's changed.

Well Ido agree with you it has changed but so has NB living in general.

[TRIPLE E]

Tennis shoes in 18 inches of slush and snow? How long exactly have you been OUT of California again?

Monkeydude, it is a seasonal thing. In the summer, recount after the galoshes and overcoats are packed away!

:snowman

What ya talkin bout I just started wearing long sleeves and a winter coat last week,still wearing my sneaks between snow storms.

[Monkeyman]

Well Ido agree with you it has changed but so has NB living in general.Yes, we now have at least 1 Mexican resident:jolly:christmasjig

[TRIPLE E]

As the posts continue to come in I feel like singing "Come alive"

[Monkeyman]

It cracks me up how so many NBers just take on the cold like it is nothing, I'm freezing by October. Y'all are tuff!!!

[TRIPLE E]

Yes, we now have at least 1 Mexican resident:jolly:christmasjig

I still remember the good ole days when we had a hand pump in our kitchen to pump our water and we'd put the ole cast iron iron on the ole wood stove to heat er up so we could iron our clothes.Boy they were the days laying in bed at night and seeing the smoke from the ole oil lamp rising to the ceilin.

[TRIPLE E]

It cracks me up how so many NBers just take on the cold like it is nothing, I'm freezing by October. Y'all are tuff!!!

I was wearing a t-shirt out in the mornin till just a couple weeks ago.I still haven't put on a pair of mittens.

[Mrs. LPW]

I still remember the good ole days when we had a hand pump in our kitchen to pump our water and we'd put the ole cast iron iron on the ole wood stove to heat er up so we could iron our clothes.Boy they were the days laying in bed at night and seeing the smoke from the ole oil lamp rising to the ceilin.

You must be ooooooooollllllldddddddd.

[Monkeyman]

My MIL tells me that she remembers getting electricity in Stair Hill back in the day!!!! And something about a room over a river with a half-moon on the door, hahaha!

[Monkeyman]

You must be ooooooooollllllldddddddd.Heeeeeeeeeee! She got ya EEE

[Maple Leaf]

But, don't you know what happens to folks who travel in the middle of the road? They get run over, right?????


WRONG! The road I'm on is "The Way" which is, the last time I checked, a one-way street. There's no oncoming traffic to concern anyone who is following Jesus Christ on the road to our eternal destiny. There's not even a middle of the road. It's a narrow way that only allows room for Jesus and whoever is traveling this road with Him.

All these "pigeon holes" are for those, who like the pigeons, enjoy p _ _ ping on things, and whose brains are not much larger than the pigeon and therefore have no discretion when it comes to dealing with folks who don't agree with them. :)

The Bible instructs us to respect all who are part of the family of God.


If God gives a person the Spirit of adoption, and they call Him "Abba" and He calls them "son," I'm happy to call them brother or sister. I don't have to agree with them or even like them, but they're family and I plan to spend eternity with them, so let's celebrate our difference, worship our Saviour, preach the Gospel, and stop being pigeons.

[TRIPLE E]

You must be ooooooooollllllldddddddd.

No I'm just middle of the road when it comes to my age.:santathumb

[Mrs. LPW]

No I'm just middle of the road when it comes to my age.:santathumb

There is no middle pigeon!!

Face it.... you're oooooolllllllllldddddd.:IAM

[TRIPLE E]

There is no middle pigeon!!

Face it.... you're oooooolllllllllldddddd.:IAM

Now you're starting to talk like my kids!:christmoose

[Truly Blessed]

What constitutes a pigeon hole?

pigeonhole:
1. a hole or recess, or one of a series of recesses, for pigeons to nest in. 2. one of a series of small compartments in a desk, cabinet, or the like, used for filing papers, letters, etc. 3. to lay aside for future reference. 4. to put aside and ignore. 6. to put into categories.

I am using it in the sense of #6. We have a tendency to pigeon hole people, or put them in a category that brushes them with the same brush as others we have decided belong to the same group.

My experience has been that it's possible for a person to be liberal on some matters, conservative on others, and take a moderate position on other issues. However, in order for someone to discover this they would have to actually get to know someone and have conversations with them. For some people that's just too much effort, so they simply "pigeon hole" them.

[TRIPLE E]

so let's celebrate our difference, worship our Saviour, preach the Gospel, and stop being pigeons.

This last part reminded me of a flyer I received today.

"Join the World Council of Churches 'and the Faith and Order Commission of the Vatican in celebrating Christian Unity in 2008"

[Mrs. LPW]

pigeonhole:
1. a hole or recess, or one of a series of recesses, for pigeons to nest in. 2. one of a series of small compartments in a desk, cabinet, or the like, used for filing papers, letters, etc. 3. to lay aside for future reference. 4. to put aside and ignore. 6. to put into categories.

I am using it in the sense of #6. We have a tendency to pigeon hole people, or put them in a category that brushes them with the same brush as others we have decided belong to the same group.

My experience has been that it's possible for a person to be liberal on some matters, conservative on others, and take a moderate position on other issues. However, in order for someone to discover this they would have to actually get to know someone and have conversations with them. For some people that's just too much effort, so they simply "pigeon hole" them.



... and what constitutes pooping on one another?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

From where I sit, you are completely right.

If you watch Hollywood at home, it's the same as watching it at Empire Theatres.

If you trim your hair, it's the same as if you cut it to your shoulders.

If you color your hair, it's the same as coloring your cheeks or finger nails.

:bumpsign

Is this pidgeon holed?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Yes, we now have at least 1 Mexican resident:jolly:christmasjig

They think you are a sunburned Quebois resident!

[TRIPLE E]

:bumpsign

Is this pidgeon holed?

I'm just wondering from where Alvin was sitting.In a pigeon hole perhaps?:jolly

[Monkeyman]

:bumpsign

Is this pidgeon holed?If your Avatar is the same as a current Hollywood animated movie called, The Chipmunks" you a bleeding liberal!!!!!!!

[TRIPLE E]

They think you are a sunburned Quebois resident!

No we can tell he's American,his accent gives him a way!
He talks like a New Yorka!

[Truly Blessed]

I have been trying to stay out of this but...

I am not sure what size my brian is compared to some others on here but I think it would be safe to say that it at least is in the functioning mode.Don't take it personally D&J, I was simply using the pigeon to illustrate the "small-mindedness" that leads some people to dump on others without ever having spoken to the person personally.

I don't know who you are, but based on any of your posts that I have read, you certainly are not a small-minded person IMHO.

[TRIPLE E]

If your Avatar is the same as a current Hollywood animated movie called, The Chipmunks" you a bleeding liberal!!!!!!!

I thought it was Columbo or Captain Kirk.

[Monkeyman]

They think you are a sunburned Quebois resident!Funny and sad story..I got called a racial slur a couple of weeks ago...included the word "Indian". Of course he drove off before I could "minister" to him. Funny thing is, I told a Native friend of mine that I took one for her team...she told me we are even....she got called a ____ _____ Mexican in Buffalo once. Heeeeeeeeee!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

No we can tell he's American,his accent gives him a way!
He talks like a New Yorka!

Funny, when I was in New England, it was said if a cat had kittens in an oven, the offspring was not called "biscuits. "
I never fit in there due to my speech and now in Rainy, miserable cold California I again do not fit in.

[Destiny2]

The mall today had jean skirted ladies wearing white sneakers and short jackets.
Being the senior I am ,I wore a long coat and winter boots,no more freezing for me if I can help it, not as tough as I used to be.lol
By the way we have had electricity in my part of N.B. for many years but I did start school with a slate and slate pencil !

[Truly Blessed]

... and what constitutes pooping on one another?

Ignorantly dumping on others carelessly and without using discretion based on bias, rather than personal knowledge of someone.

[Maple Leaf]

This last part reminded me of a flyer I received today.

"Join the World Council of Churches 'and the Faith and Order Commission of the Vatican in celebrating Christian Unity in 2008"

Interesting comparison.

Giving latitude for disgreement in the Jesus name family is equivalent to linking arms with the World Council of Churches and the Faith and Order Commission of the Vatican.

[Mrs. LPW]

Ignorantly dumping on others carelessly and without using discretion based on bias, rather than personal knowledge of someone.

That's a good definition!

[Monkeyman]

The mall today had jean skirted ladies wearing white sneakers and short jackets.
Being the senior I am ,I wore a long coat and winter boots,no more freezing for me if I can help it, not as tough as I used to be.lol
By the way we have had electricity in my part of N.B. for many years but I did start school with a slate and slate pencil !Sorry mam, I don't even know what a slate/slate pencil is!!!!!

[Mrs. LPW]

The mall today had jean skirted ladies wearing white sneakers and short jackets.
Being the senior I am ,I wore a long coat and winter boots,no more freezing for me if I can help it, not as tough as I used to be.lol
By the way we have had electricity in my part of N.B. for many years but I did start school with a slate and slate pencil !

I wonder which is worse... no fashion sense (tennis shoes and jean skirts when not walking in the park) or no common sense... short flimsy jackets and sandals in the middle of a New Brunswick winter..

One is as bad as the other I think.. but I tend to forgive the no fashion sense faster than no common sense!

[Mrs. LPW]

Sorry mam, I don't even know what a slate/slate pencil is!!!!!

You know Jon.. the thing that Anne of Green Gables smashed over Gilbert's head!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

You know Jon.. the thing that Anne of Green Gables smashed over Gilbert's head!

Did you view the video or read the book?

[Mrs. LPW]

Did you view the video or read the book?

I read the books many times... but I've seen the videos too! I must be a lib!

[seguidordejesus]

Funny, when I was in New England, it was said if a cat had kittens in an oven, the offspring was not called "biscuits. "
I never fit in there due to my speech and now in Rainy, miserable cold California I again do not fit in.

where are you from originally?

[Mrs. LPW]

where are you from originally?

.... and where do you live now?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

where are you from originally?

I was born in a Western state, and graduated from High School in Lousy-anna. I am a citizen of California and Arnie is my Gubernator now!

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I read the books many times... but I've seen the videos too! I must be a lib!

My sister in law has them and she has in fact been to PEI and the house in the story. (I think it was PEI)

[Monkeyman]

You know Jon.. the thing that Anne of Green Gables smashed over Gilbert's head!Puhleeze, I was too busy watching Flinstones & NFL, ya know, boy stuff!

[Maple Leaf]

Don't take it personally D&J, I was simply using the pigeon to illustrate the "small-mindedness" that leads some people to dump on others without ever having spoken to the person personally.

I don't know who you are, but based on any of your posts that I have read, you certainly are not a small-minded person IMHO.


D&J comes from good stock. :penguin

I knew his Pappy.

[D&J]

D&J comes from good stock. :penguin

I knew his Pappy.

:santathumb

Thanks my man...

I have a great and powerful heritage!!

[Mrs. LPW]

:santathumb

Thanks my man...

I have a great and powerful heritage!!

Do you mind me asking who your father is?

[Maple Leaf]

:santathumb

Thanks my man...

I have a great and powerful heritage!!


Should we tell Truly that he pastored Pappy?:jolly

[Maple Leaf]

Do you mind me asking who your father is?

His father is one of the best men to ever walk in shoe leather.

A prince of a man.

[D&J]

His father is one of the best men to ever walk in shoe leather.

A prince of a man.

Wow, you are on a roll tonight!!

And I totally agree, a prince of man and a Bible Teacher par excellance!!

[D&J]

Should we tell Truly that he pastored Pappy?:jolly

Hmmmm... interesting for sure....

I had forgot about that...

:horn

[Felicity]

Well! The postings made today on this thread by NBers have certainly made for interesting reading! Hmmmm........ lots of comments I could make.

:) ;)

[Mrs. LPW]

Well! The postings made today on this thread by NBers have certainly made for interesting reading! Hmmmm........ lots of comments I could make.

:) ;)

Please do! This is the most excitement this thread has seen in a bit!

:christmasjig

[Truly Blessed]

I read the books many times... but I've seen the videos too! I must be a lib!You didn't bring the theater into your home did you?

[Felicity]

Please do! This is the most excitement this thread has seen in a bit!

:christmasjigHaha! I agree with you sis! Gotta love love love the Canadian thread even though it goes very quiet at times. It's great to see you all posting!

[Mrs. LPW]

You didn't bring the theater into your home did you?

Yes, and the screen gets larger every so often. lol
No tv though, I can say that. My hubby catches his sports online and my two year old watches his cartoons via dvd... so I'm the only one who suffers!

[Mrs. LPW]

Haha! I agree with you sis! Gotta love love love the Canadian thread even though it goes very quiet at times. It's great to see you all posting!

Yes, we Canadians have to stick together......

to keep warm!

[ALVIN]

Yes, and the screen gets larger every so often. lol
No tv though, I can say that. My hubby catches his sports online and my two year old watches his cartoons via dvd... so I'm the only one who suffers!

That's good. Get them hooked on Hollywood young and they'll follow the stars all the days of their life.

Sports online? Might as well have a big screen and Rogers HDTV. Organized sports are organized sports, even if you have to squint at a computer monitor to see the players.

I'm pretty much convinced that you're a liberal, or at the very least that your husband and two year old are confirmed liberals.

[Truly Blessed]

D&J comes from good stock. :penguin

I knew his Pappy.Okay guys, you can stop tooting your own horn now! :)

Not only did you know his pappy, you had the same pappy, and I agree that he was a wonderful man of God. I only wish I had known him when he was younger.

I also agree that D&J 's father is one of the best men to walk in shoe leather, and someone I have always greatly admired and appreciated.

[Felicity]

Yes, we Canadians have to stick together......

to keep warm!:friend

[Mrs. LPW]

That's good. Get them hooked on Hollywood young and they'll follow the stars all the days of their life.

Sports online? Might as well have a big screen and Rogers HDTV. Organized sports are organized sports, even if you have to squint at a computer monitor to see the players.

I'm pretty much convinced that you're a liberal, or at the very least that your husband and two year old are confirmed liberals.

Yes, my two year old told me that just the other day, he said 'Mommy I'm a Liberal...' but it sounded like jgfuygkjhbuihkjbjhbhuyg I had to get the interpretation from the lord.

Is Bob the Builder someone my son will look up to in adulthood? If so he's got bigger problems than being a liberal.

:jolly

[Birdie]

Well! The postings made today on this thread by NBers have certainly made for interesting reading! Hmmmm........ lots of comments I could make.

:) ;)
I think all the excitement started when I questioned your hubby about joining up with the UPC and wondering when you arrive in Sussex to pastor???

[TrueNorth]

I think all the excitement started when I questioned your hubby about joining up with the UPC and wondering when you arrive in Sussex to pastor???

That would be surreal wouldn't it?

[Felicity]

That would be surreal wouldn't it?Oh come on. :rolleyes:

Besides, I always said I'd love to retire in Sussex. :p :D

[Felicity]

I think all the excitement started when I questioned your hubby about joining up with the UPC and wondering when you arrive in Sussex to pastor???:christmasjig

[D&J]

Okay guys, you can stop tooting your own horn now! :)

Not only did you know his pappy, you had the same pappy, and I agree that he was a wonderful man of God. I only wish I had known him when he was younger.

I also agree that D&J 's father is one of the best men to walk in shoe leather, and someone I have always greatly admired and appreciated.

Wow, you guys are getting revelation freely now :santathumb

He that tooteth not his own horn does not get it tooted!!

I will never forget the night my pappy prayed for me over the phone and God powerfully touched me!! And the popsicles from the front porch store were good also....

:bells

[D&J]

Oh come on. :rolleyes:

Besides, I always said I'd love to retire in Sussex. :p :D

Retire in Sussex??????

Now there is a stretch of the imagination :jolly

Of course to my Dad there is no place like Jerusalem...

[D&J]

Who is going to Sussex to pastor, seems to be the million dollar question!!

Wonder why it is so hard to find the right guy?

Or did they miss the "will of God" [now there is a ancient and foreign term] when they took the only vote so far?

Or was it not "time" for the former pastor to leave?

Wow, my mind is in the wondering mood this morning... but only about Sussex!!

[TRIPLE E]

Who is going to Sussex to pastor, seems to be the million dollar question!!

Wonder why it is so hard to find the right guy?

Or did they miss the "will of God" [now there is a ancient and foreign term] when they took the only vote so far?

Or was it not "time" for the former pastor to leave?

Wow, my mind is in the wondering mood this morning... but only about Sussex!!

I guess it's hard for the church board to make up their mind,if given the opportunity the church could decide quite quickly no doubt.

[TrueNorth]

Who is going to Sussex to pastor, seems to be the million dollar question!!

Wonder why it is so hard to find the right guy?

Or did they miss the "will of God" [now there is a ancient and foreign term] when they took the only vote so far?

Or was it not "time" for the former pastor to leave?

Wow, my mind is in the wondering mood this morning... but only about Sussex!!

Who did they vote on? What was the result?
Guess I'm way out of the loop.
How many does the UPC church in Sussex average now? I thought they were about a hundred - is that ballpark?
I'm assuming that St. Stephen is about the same.
I do know that SA was the first to preach in St. Stephen following the pastors farewell - that Sunday pm in fact. An old friend preaching for an old friend.

[Maple Leaf]

Who is going to Sussex to pastor, seems to be the million dollar question!!

Wonder why it is so hard to find the right guy?

Or did they miss the "will of God" [now there is a ancient and foreign term] when they took the only vote so far?

Or was it not "time" for the former pastor to leave?

Wow, my mind is in the wondering mood this morning... but only about Sussex!!

I'm with William Sherman on this one: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”

[Maple Leaf]

Who did they vote on? What was the result?
Guess I'm way out of the loop.
How many does the UPC church in Sussex average now? I thought they were about a hundred - is that ballpark?
I'm assuming that St. Stephen is about the same.
I do know that SA was the first to preach in St. Stephen following the pastors farewell - that Sunday pm in fact. An old friend preaching for an old friend.

Try to pass it off as old friends week if you want, but I think that ESM is "looking our way." :penguin

PS: If you have to number the people before you'll put your name in the hat, you're too carnal to be their pastor.

[TrueNorth]

Who is going to Sussex to pastor, seems to be the million dollar question!!

Wonder why it is so hard to find the right guy?

Or did they miss the "will of God" [now there is a ancient and foreign term] when they took the only vote so far?

Or was it not "time" for the former pastor to leave?

Wow, my mind is in the wondering mood this morning... but only about Sussex!!

The times they are a changing.
I think there are several factors, not sure any of them are good.
* Too many guys who have 8-10 years of experience are dropping out of pastoring.
* Older men are retiring instead of continuing to pastor until they drop in the pulpit.
* More emphasis on secular education
* Ministry as a career rather than a calling. If it is only a career you will switch careers.
* Churches realize that they are paying good money and are no longer willing to just accept a warm living body.
* Expectations have gone through the roof.

It's interesting that Bro. Trevor Neil predicted this ministerial shortage 10+ years ago in a study he did for the Canada Conference.

[TrueNorth]

Try to pass it off as old friends week if you want, but I think that ESM is "looking our way." :penguin

PS: If you have to number the people before you'll put your name in the hat, you're too carnal to be their pastor.

Sometimes ESM makes you scratch your head and go "wow".
Somebody needs to put their name in the hat. As for me, the last two churches I pastored I started out with 20-25. Any bigger than that would be too intimidating.:horn

[D&J]

I do know that SA was the first to preach in St. Stephen following the pastors farewell - that Sunday pm in fact. An old friend preaching for an old friend.

This is amazing to me!!!

Sorry about that, but it is...

[D&J]

I'm with William Sherman on this one: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”

AMEN!!!

I am in total agreement with that statement!!

:star

[D&J]

Who did they vote on? What was the result?
Guess I'm way out of the loop.
How many does the UPC church in Sussex average now? I thought they were about a hundred - is that ballpark?
I'm assuming that St. Stephen is about the same.

Sussex voted on one of the church elders son and he did not get it as is apparent. Or do you mean what wa the result of him not getting it? :jolly

Sussex averaging 100???? Ummmm, not so sure that would be correct...

[ALVIN]

The times they are a changing.
I think there are several factors, not sure any of them are good.
* Too many guys who have 8-10 years of experience are dropping out of pastoring.
* Older men are retiring instead of continuing to pastor until they drop in the pulpit.
* More emphasis on secular education
* Ministry as a career rather than a calling. If it is only a career you will switch careers.
* Churches realize that they are paying good money and are no longer willing to just accept a warm living body.
* Expectations have gone through the roof.

It's interesting that Bro. Trevor Neil predicted this ministerial shortage 10+ years ago in a study he did for the Canada Conference.

I remember Bro. Neil's report, and the guy who got up after him and said, "I don't know about numbers, but we're having (or going to have) revival."

Go to the AD web site and look for active pastors under 40 years old. You can count them on a mill worker's fingers. It ain't any better in the ACOP or Independent churches either.

[Maple Leaf]

Sussex voted on one of the church elders son and he did not get it as is apparent. Or do you mean what wa the result of him not getting it? :jolly

Sussex averaging 100???? Ummmm, not so sure that would be correct...

I thought the split in Sussex was fairly even, about 150 in each direction. I would have guessed that Abundant Life was closer to 150 than 100. I know that Calvary is doing well and seeing growth and Holy Ghost baptisms.

[D&J]

I thought the split in Sussex was fairly even, about 150 in each direction. I would have guessed that Abundant Life was closer to 150 than 100. I know that Calvary is doing well and seeing growth and Holy Ghost baptisms.

Ummmm.... i need to be careful here... but I really do not think Abundant Life is running anywhere close to 150.... it would honestly surprise me if they were hitting the 100 mark... I do not know this for sure but it would surprise me...

[TrueNorth]

I thought the split in Sussex was fairly even, about 150 in each direction. I would have guessed that Abundant Life was closer to 150 than 100. I know that Calvary is doing well and seeing growth and Holy Ghost baptisms.

I had forgotten about that vote. Probably best that it went that way.
I had a family member tell me that there was a move from Abundant Life to
Calvary. Shouldn't that be from Calvary to Abundant Life?:jolly
So, what would be the ballpark on Abundant Life?

[Maple Leaf]

Wow, you are on a roll tonight!!

And I totally agree, a prince of man and a Bible Teacher par excellance!!

I have been blessed to know many great men of God, men of whom this world was not worthy. My pastor, Lloyd Williams, RA Beesley, AW Post, CB Dudley, MF Urquhart, HD McNair, George Shalm, Jimmy Burns, and many, many others. Our Pentecostal heritage in NB is rich and deep.

Along with them I could list an even longer list of laymen and women that I have known who have shown me what it means to be a Christian. It's a season to celebrate blessing and my life has been richly blessed by God and His people.

[D&J]

I have been blessed to know many great men of God, men of whom this world was not worthy. My pastor, Lloyd Williams, RA Beesley, AW Post, CB Dudley, MF Urquhart, HD McNair, George Shalm, Jimmy Burns, and many many others. Our Pentecostal heritage in NB is rich and deep.

Wow, I knew all those men...

I would add to the list John Mean... who has taught me so much by example!

[seguidordejesus]

So how many fingers does a mill worker have?

[D&J]

I had forgotten about that vote. Probably best that it went that way.
I had a family member tell me that there was a move from Abundant Life to
Calvary. Shouldn't that be from Calvary to Abundant Life?:jolly
So, what would be the ballpark on Abundant Life?

The move from one church to the other probably seesaws back and forth as circumstances change in each church. There has always been and will always be what Jeff Arnold calls "gypsy's for Jesus" I guess.

I am only guessing on a ballpark for abundant Life but I would say 75-85... but someone on here probably knows the real figures....

[Rachel]

Those of us who never had a chance to get to know some of those ... missed out. I do know Bro. McNair & Bro. Urquhart though.. There are still great people in NB.. men and women that if some of us in my generation could be half the people they were and/or are.. we'd be set.

[ALVIN]

So how many fingers does a mill worker have?

Good question.

If you're in a service, and if, when the service reaches a Pentecostal frenzy, the Pastor shouts, "Give your neighbour a 'High Four!'" You're probably in a mill town.

[D&J]

Those of us who never had a chance to get to know some of those ... missed out. I do know Bro. McNair & Bro. Urquhart though.. There are still great people in NB.. men and women that if some of those in my generation could be half the people they were and/or are.. we'd be set.

So true!!!!

God help those of my generation to pick up the torch and hold it high.

I seem to be caught in between two generations...

[Maple Leaf]

Those of us who never had a chance to get to know some of those ... missed out. I do know Bro. McNair & Bro. Urquhart though.. There are still great people in NB.. men and women that if some of those in my generation could be half the people they were and/or are.. we'd be set.

Bro. MFU was with us in service not long ago, and though weak in body, when he began to talk about the Scriptures, he came alive and lifted the service with his passion for God and the Word of God. He and his wife are wonderful people.

[Rachel]

He still does! It's quite amazing. He is so frail but I was in a service in HP two months or so ago and I think he was still the first on his feet. That's inspiring.

[The Senator]

I think all the excitement started when I questioned your hubby about joining up with the UPC and wondering when you arrive in Sussex to pastor???

What's the final count?

How many of the AD prodigals are returning home?

[Maple Leaf]

Wow, I knew all those men...

I would add to the list John Mean... who has taught me so much by example!

Another, although less well known preacher to add to the list would be Bro. Carroll Hickling, as true a Christian as I have ever had the privilege to know.

[Felicity]

Bro. MFU was with us in service not long ago, and though weak in body, when he began to talk about the Scriptures, he came alive and lifted the service with his passion for God and the Word of God. He and his wife are wonderful people.I have a letter here from Sis. U that will be kept as one of most treasured possessions. Proversbs 31 comes to mind when I think of her -- and your grandmother as well.

[Maple Leaf]

I have a letter here from Sis. U that will be kept as one of most treasured possessions. Proversbs 31 comes to mind when I think of her -- and your grandmother as well.

I have learned that it takes a lifetime to make saints like these that we are talking about this morning. I'm not concerned that I'm not like them today, but I am concerned that I become like them tomorrow.

[D&J]

And then there is Theo Craig....

[Felicity]

I have learned that it takes a lifetime to make saints like these that we are talking about this morning. I'm not concerned that I'm not like them today, but I am concerned that I become like them tomorrow.Thanks for this! There is still hope.

[Maple Leaf]

And then there is Theo Craig....

A man with a testimony like few others who has come through trial large enough to cause many to turn back who continues to serve the Lord. If he'd sign up here, I'd find something good to say about him (Like he graduated from UPBI* with a distinguished class.)

*I guess I'm supposed to put NCC with the little note "formerly UPBI," but I never attended NCC; I attended UPBI.

[TrueNorth]

And then there is Theo Craig....

I'm missing the context here. Don't tell me that after four months in Newcastle he's ready to go to Dairytown.:jolly
Great timing up there with the mill closing.

[Felicity]

Getting back to Bro. McN .....

I'll never forget the day in Bible School when I saw this man in anything less than a good mood.

One of the guys in class threatened to throw an egg to one of the girls on the other side of the room. She double dared him to do it so he did. Problem is, she missed the toss and the egg went **SPLAT** running down the wall and we were all like UHOH!!
:uhoh:blink:uhoh

DJs dad was NOT impressed and got quite perturbed with the students which ended up in them meriting several demerits each and being banished from the room.

The closest I ever saw him come to losing his cool. LOL! :)

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Inquiring minds want to know-

Where Is Wally?

:christmoose

[Maple Leaf]

Inquiring minds want to know-

Where Is Wally?

:christmoose

The old axiom comes to mind: "Let sleeping dogs lie!"

[Maple Leaf]

Family resemblance

A new baby is born and before long is surrounded by Grannie and the great aunts who peer into the still red face looking for a family resemblance. One sees grandfather's eyes, another grandmother's chin, and all claim a direct reflection of their side of the family.

As the child grows, every peculiar mannerism or quirky habit draws a comparison to a favorite memory about mom or dad. A family resemblance is seen in the shape of the facial features, an awkward gait, or a particular talent. Children resemble their parents; they have the "family look."

If you are a born again believer, you are a child of God, and a member of the family of God. Do you resemble your Father? Do you have the family look? Can people look into your eyes and see your Savior? Can they watch the way you walk and see your Father? If they already know your Father, will they see the family resemblance when they meet you?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

The old axiom comes to mind: "Let sleeping dogs lie!"

It is the Holiday Season and I have his picture in my avatar!

:jolly

[Maple Leaf]

One More:

SERVING GOD THROUGH THE WINTER: The winter season is a divine creation, born of the will and wisdom of our all wise Creator. Winter is a divinely appointed object lesson, a message from God penned with cold white ink. Winter is a season of nature and a season of the soul.

Every believer must serve God through the winters of life. Winter is a season of coldness, barrenness, and bleakness, when we must trust in the providence of God and believe in the promise of Spring. It is a time to live by faith.

Winter is a passing season, not a permanent condition; no matter how long or harsh, every recorded winter has had to surrender to the warmth of Spring. Long nights and cold days will be replaced with sunshine and warmth. Winter is long, but it doesn't last forever.

[Stephanas]

What a soppy, mushy thread. I guess that's what living in a Socialist State does for people - takes all the fight out of them. I guess the body of Christ needs tear ducts and Hallmark moments as well as a spine and muscles.

[Maple Leaf]

What a soppy, mushy thread. I guess that's what living in a Socialist State does for people - takes all the fight out of them. I guess the body of Christ needs tear ducts and Hallmark moments as well as a spine and muscles.

Yessiree, every part of the body is important: the heart, the lungs, the liver; the eyes, the ears, the nose; and then there's the bright red boil on the chubby cheek that keeps us from getting too comfortable. Everyone has a part, even purulent posters.

[Stephanas]

Yessiree, every part of the body is important: the heart, the lungs, the liver; the eyes, the ears, the nose; and then there's the bright red boil on the chubby cheek that keeps us from getting too comfortable. Everyone has a part, even purulent posters.

Purulent. That's a big word to come out of a part of the world better known for interbreeding than for education. The only way that a Canadian would ever learn a word like that is while spending a very long time standing in a very long line waiting for their turn at the Public Health Trough.

[TRIPLE E]

Getting back to Bro. McN .....

I'll never forget the day in Bible School when I saw this man in anything less than a good mood.

One of the guys in class threatened to throw an egg to one of the girls on the other side of the room. She double dared him to do it so he did. Problem is, she missed the toss and the egg went **SPLAT** running down the wall and we were all like UHOH!!
:uhoh:blink:uhoh

DJs dad was NOT impressed and got quite perturbed with the students which ended up in them meriting several demerits each and being banished from the room.

The closest I ever saw him come to losing his cool. LOL! :)


I have had the wonderful privilege of having HDMcN as my pastor and have many fond memories of him and his wife.What an example they were to us ,prayer was such an important part of their lives ,so glad they were there for us in one of the darkest days in my family's life.:bells

[Maple Leaf]

Purulent. That's a big word to come out of a part of the world better known for interbreeding than for education. The only way that a Canadian would ever learn a word like that is while spending a very long time standing in a very long line waiting for their turn at the Public Health Trough.

So, where would a fat cat American learn a word like that - from the tattered health records of widows and orphans, single moms and seniors, that they've trampled over on their way to the head of a capitalist queue?

[Rachel]

Ouch.

Moving on..

Christmas is five days away.. Everyone ready?

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Ouch.

Moving on..

Christmas is five days away.. Everyone ready?

Ham, Turkey, or Christmas Goose?

:evilglee

[Felicity]

Merry Christmas everyone and as Tiny Tim said.....

:bells "God bless us everyone!" :bells

[TrueNorth]

Purulent. That's a big word to come out of a part of the world better known for interbreeding than for education. The only way that a Canadian would ever learn a word like that is while spending a very long time standing in a very long line waiting for their turn at the Public Health Trough.
Do you still live in the back mountains of West Viriginia - where health care is a still and a chaw?

[Rachel]

Turkey!

I'm making a sweet potato souffle tonight though..

[Stephanas]

Do you still live in the back mountains of West Viriginia - where health care is a still and a chaw?

Beats living in Toronto, the armpit of North America, where health care is , "Take two aspirins and call me in ninety days."

[Admin]

What a soppy, mushy thread. I guess that's what living in a Socialist State does for people - takes all the fight out of them. I guess the body of Christ needs tear ducts and Hallmark moments as well as a spine and muscles.

Purulent. That's a big word to come out of a part of the world better known for interbreeding than for education. The only way that a Canadian would ever learn a word like that is while spending a very long time standing in a very long line waiting for their turn at the Public Health Trough.

Beats living in Toronto, the armpit of North America, where health care is , "Take two aspirins and call me in ninety days."


Let's cut down the name calling, shall we?

I think an apology would be needed also.

The Canadians who are here are our fellow Saints.

[Stephanas]

Let's cut down the name calling, shall we?

I think an apology would be needed also.

The Canadians who are here are our fellow Saints.

I humbly apologize for any remarks that admin deems to be out of order.

My posts were an apparently unsuccessful attempt to spice up a slow day with humor.

God bless the Canadians.

[Maple Leaf]

Yessiree, every part of the body is important: the heart, the lungs, the liver; the eyes, the ears, the nose; and then there's the bright red boil on the chubby cheek that keeps us from getting too comfortable. Everyone has a part, even purulent posters.

Looks like the boil got lanced.

[Maple Leaf]

I humbly apologize for any remarks that admin deems to be out of order.

My posts were an apparently unsuccessful attempt to spice up a slow day with humor.

God bless the Canadians.

Ditto:penguin

[The Senator]

Back to Sussex.

I was talking to UPC district official who told me that a preacher from west may be interested in Sussex. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but if it happens a lot of people will be surprised.

[Stephanas]

Looks like the boil got lanced.


Lord, thou knowest that thy servant is sorely tempted to reply to this post, but thou knowest that I have pledged obedience to Admin's warning, so helpest thou me to fulfil my pledge and to hold my peace while thou fightest my battles for me. Grant unto thy humble servant a heart filled with forbearance, a mind set to forgive, and a spirit saturated with longsuffering and patience. If thou shouldest not see fit to grant this petition, then grant me a dispensation that I may slip one final zinger under Admin's radar.

[TRIPLE E]

Back to Sussex.

I was talking to UPC district official who told me that a preacher from west may be interested in Sussex. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but if it happens a lot of people will be surprised.

West where? the West or the west side

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

West where? the West or the west side

West of Sussex apparently!

[TRIPLE E]

West of Sussex apparently!

Hmmm west of Sussex is ?

[Felicity]

West Island?

:rudolph

[seguidordejesus]

Je veut seulemente dire "bonjour" a tout le monde!

[Truly Blessed]

Back to Sussex.

I was talking to UPC district official who told me that a preacher from west may be interested in Sussex. I don't know if there's any truth to it, but if it happens a lot of people will be surprised.Just in case someone is interested in the facts, if the western pastor referred to is me, I can tell you that I have not preached at Sussex, I have not received any interest from Sussex in my leadership, neither have I expressed any interest in going to Sussex.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Just in case someone is interested in the facts, if the western pastor referred to is me, I can tell you that I have not preached at Sussex, I have not received any interest from Sussex in my leadership, neither have I expressed any interest in going to Sussex.

spoilsport!

[Maple Leaf]

West Island?

:rudolph

If that wouldn't surprise anyone else, it would sure surprise me.

Can you imagine the conversation when he called Bro. Oscar?

Hilarious!:penguin

[Maple Leaf]

Just in case someone is interested in the facts, if the western pastor referred to is me, I can tell you that I have not preached at Sussex, I have not received any interest from Sussex in my leadership, neither have I expressed any interest in going to Sussex.

In the spirit of issuing disclaimers, and because I am also west of Sussex, I repeat:

I'm with William Sherman on this one: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”

[Felicity]

If that wouldn't surprise anyone else, it would sure surprise me.

Can you imagine the conversation when he called Bro. Oscar?

Hilarious!:penguin Surprises are always surprises.

Profound, huh? LOL.

I would be surprised too.

[Mrs. LPW]

Just in case someone is interested in the facts, if the western pastor referred to is me, I can tell you that I have not preached at Sussex, I have not received any interest from Sussex in my leadership, neither have I expressed any interest in going to Sussex.

Now what are we going to talk about all evening? :gift

Is everyone all ready for Christmas? Gifts bought and wrapped? Baking done?

[Thumper]

Hi all,

Ran into TB and Felicity last night and thought of you all

Just thought I would drop in and say hello

Hello :tiphat

Hope all is well with everyone

God bless

[Barb]

I have learned that it takes a lifetime to make saints like these that we are talking about this morning. I'm not concerned that I'm not like them today, but I am concerned that I become like them tomorrow.

Your humility is always a blesing to me, ML...God bless you, sis...:star

[Maple Leaf]

Your humility is always a blesing to me, ML...God bless you, sis...:star

Sis?

How many times do I have to tell you - It's not a skirt - It's a kilt.

A kilt is a, well, uh, it's a skirt for men - but, it's a cultural statement - there's no reason to call me Sis. just because my kilt looks like a skirt.

Other than that, thanks for the kind sentiments.

I have more reason to be humble than most.

If it wasn't for my two brothers, Truly, D&J, and TripleE, I'd be the homeliest man on the planet. :penguin

[Barb]

Sis?

How many times do I have to tell you - It's not a skirt - It's a kilt.

A kilt is a, well, uh, it's a skirt for men - but, it's a cultural statement - there's no reason to call me Sis. just because my kilt looks like a skirt.

Other than that, thanks for the kind sentiments.

I have more reason to be humble than most.

If it wasn't for my two brothers, Truly, D&J, and TripleE, I'd be the homeliest man on the planet. :penguin

Oh my stars!! I meant "sir" not sis!! LOL!!

That's what I get for not proof reading...sorry, ML...:star

[Felicity]

Hi all,

Ran into TB and Felicity last night and thought of you all

Just thought I would drop in and say hello

Hello :tiphat

Hope all is well with everyone

God blessHi Thumper! :)

It was so nice seeing you last evening. I had been wondering about you because it had been so long since we'd seen or heard from you and then out of the blue .... there you were! Enjoyed the chat!

Congrats on the weight loss! Merry Christmas! :wreath

[TRIPLE E]

Hi all,

Ran into TB and Felicity last night and thought of you all

Just thought I would drop in and say hello

Hello :tiphat

Hope all is well with everyone

God bless

Good to hear from you after all this time.How are things going with your church plant?
What was your key to weight loss? I have around 130 to lose and hope to in the New Year (don't ask how long I've been saying that).

God bless and come back and visit again,

Triple E

[D&J]

Good morning from good ole New Brunswick!!

God is good...

And this forum never ceases to surprise me!!

[Truly Blessed]

Good morning from good ole New Brunswick!!

God is good...

And this forum never ceases to surprise me!!Good morning from the West coast! With only 4 days 'til Christmas I suppose I should get my shopping done. It's the first Christmas without the grandchildren this year! :sad

[TRIPLE E]

Good morning from the East Coast,where they are announcing a balmy(and rainy) Christmas Eve with temperature of 9 degrees Celsius.
D&J I suppose you're getting ready for the big blizzard they are calling for on the 27th or 28th.They say it's going to be almost impossible for us to miss this one.
Time will tell.If you are down this way at Christmas give us a jingle.

[TrueNorth]

I humbly apologize for any remarks that admin deems to be out of order.

My posts were an apparently unsuccessful attempt to spice up a slow day with humor.

God bless the Canadians.

A ventriloquist is doing his act and the dummy starts making fun of blondes.

Most of the audience fall about but a very well dressed blonde in the front row is not amused.

Commanding silence she stands up, and walks up to the front of the stage.

"I am sick to the back teeth of blonde jokes. I'll have you know I have a degree in Accountancy, I am a member of MENSA and I run my own tax consultancy. I have written four books that have all been best sellers in their fields AND I can complete the Times crossword in ten minutes. So no more dumb blonde jokes if you please!"

The ventriloquist, quite embarrassed, says he apologises, but it isn't meant to be taken seriously, after all it is only an act. He promises he won't do any more dumb blonde jokes that night.

Her eyes flashing, she stands there.

"Well?" she says, "Where's my apology?"

"I just apologised!" protests the ventriloquist.

"Yes I know YOU did - it's your grinning little friend's turn now!"


In this case the grinning little friend went first.

[Stephanas]

A ventriloquist is doing his act and the dummy starts making fun of blondes.

Most of the audience fall about but a very well dressed blonde in the front row is not amused.

Commanding silence she stands up, and walks up to the front of the stage.

"I am sick to the back teeth of blonde jokes. I'll have you know I have a degree in Accountancy, I am a member of MENSA and I run my own tax consultancy. I have written four books that have all been best sellers in their fields AND I can complete the Times crossword in ten minutes. So no more dumb blonde jokes if you please!"

The ventriloquist, quite embarrassed, says he apologises, but it isn't meant to be taken seriously, after all it is only an act. He promises he won't do any more dumb blonde jokes that night.

Her eyes flashing, she stands there.

"Well?" she says, "Where's my apology?"

"I just apologised!" protests the ventriloquist.

"Yes I know YOU did - it's your grinning little friend's turn now!"


In this case the grinning little friend went first.

Lord, thou knowest that this forum is but a microcosm of the real world that thou hast ordered, and thou knowest that, as in the real world, the Canadians must have the protection of another's forces (In this case Admin), so grant unto thy servant the grace not to attack a people who evidently are incapable of mounting an adequate defense.

PS: If thou shouldst not grant this grace unto me, at least grant unto me the favor that I would not inflict such a lame joke upon my enemies as my frozen but chosen brother (or sister), True North, has lobbed in my direction.

[Stephanas]

Dear Canadian Friends,

In what way are the Titanic and the Toronto Maple Leafs alike?

They both look good until they hit the ice.

[Mrs. LPW]

Dear Canadian Friends,

In what way are the Titanic and the Toronto Maple Leafs alike?

They both look good until they hit the ice.

You're right about that!!!

[Mrs. LPW]

Good morning from good ole New Brunswick!!

God is good...

And this forum never ceases to surprise me!!

D&J, is your wife's name Denise?

[D&J]

D&J, is your wife's name Denise?

Sure is!!! :santathumb

She is one awesome woman!!

[D&J]

D&J I suppose you're getting ready for the big blizzard they are calling for on the 27th or 28th.They say it's going to be almost impossible for us to miss this one.

Man, do not get me started :jolly

Ooopppsssss.. here I go.....

Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow


:christmoose

[TRIPLE E]

Man, do not get me started :jolly

Ooopppsssss.. here I go.....

Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow


:christmoose

Sing it louder so sis.Destiny will hear!:jolly

[Mrs. LPW]

Sure is!!! :santathumb

She is one awesome woman!!

Yes she is very sweet... and all those kind things about your father are true too! I have such fond memories of his leading song service at Harvey.

[Destiny2]

let it snow abundantly where it is wanted,please send all the extra snow to D+J,that is my wish,I have had it with snow for now lol,Triple E can have any D+J doesn't want and it would suit me just fine !!

[D&J]

Yes she is very sweet... and all those kind things about your father are true too! I have such fond memories of his leading song service at Harvey.

Yup, she is that for sure.... she puts up with me!!!

My Dad can still sing really good.... especially "How Great Thou Art!!" when the Holy Ghost gets on him!!!

[Mrs. LPW]

Yup, she is that for sure.... she puts up with me!!!

My Dad can still sing really good.... especially "How Great Thou Art!!" when the Holy Ghost gets on him!!!

How is his health?

One thing I can say about your father.. he never knew me from Adam (or Eve I should say) but he would always smile and speak whenever he would see me. This leads me to believe he'd smile and speak to everyone and anyone. He's a true Christian in my regard.

[TRIPLE E]

let it snow abundantly where it is wanted,please send all the extra snow to D+J,that is my wish,I have had it with snow for now lol,Triple E can have any D+J doesn't want and it would suit me just fine !!

Now Sis.Destiny,Triple E is quite satisfied with the amount of snow we have right now and thinks the rest of the winter that the snow should be evenly distributed over the Miramichi from Boiestown and down river and over the Northern part of the province.

[Destiny2]

Now Sis.Destiny,Triple E is quite satisfied with the amount of snow we have right now and thinks the rest of the winter that the snow should be evenly distributed over the Miramichi from Boiestown and down river and over the Northern part of the province.

Agreed

[Rachel]

Good morning! Christmas in three days!

[D&J]

How is his health?

One thing I can say about your father.. he never knew me from Adam (or Eve I should say) but he would always smile and speak whenever he would see me. This leads me to believe he'd smile and speak to everyone and anyone. He's a true Christian in my regard.

My father is doing very well health wise. As a matter of fact my Mom and Dad are coming here today for Christmas.

As for always being friendly and smiling, that's my Dad and always been that way!!! God Bless him :jolly

[D&J]

Good morning! Christmas in three days!

YAHOO!!!!

Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow

Ooopppsss.... sorry I just can't help it!!

[Rachel]

They're awesome! It's hard to believe that my nan was your parent's flower girl..

[Rachel]

The snow needn't continue! - ha.. I am driving home Christmas Eve after my shift sooo I need the best weather possible.

[D&J]

They're awesome! It's hard to believe that my nan was your parent's flower girl..


Hey that is the truth isn't it!!

Does that make me related to you?? :christmoose

Oh dear, what a thought!! What was it Jeremy D said about your last name?

[Rachel]

haha! You would bring that up.

[Maple Leaf]

They're awesome! It's hard to believe that my nan was your parent's flower girl..

The interconnection of people in NB always amazes me, and it's even more prominent within the Pentecostal family. I met a young couple last week who I had never met before; it turned out in conversation that I knew several of his family members, and that he was related to one of my sister-in-laws and his wife was related to another of my sister-in-laws.

[Felicity]

The interconnection of people in NB always amazes me, and it's even more prominent within the Pentecostal family. I met a young couple last week who I had never met before; it turned out in conversation that I knew several of his family members, and that he was related to one of my sister-in-laws and his wife was related to another of my sister-in-laws.Not true in my case. I guess because I'm barely 2nd generation Pentecostal and practically none of my family on both sides were ever Oneness Pentecostals.

Some of you have such a rich heritage!

[Rachel]

I do.. really. I'm so blessed.

I love Bro & Sis McNair though.. I remember when they used to visit in New Denmark a couple of times and I would sit there and listen to him & dad talk.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

YAHOO!!!!

Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow
Let it snow

Ooopppsss.... sorry I just can't help it!!

In Sunny (Northwest) California yesterday we had a hoarfrost that reminded me of my times in the NorthEast. For one's blood to thin out, it feels very cold indeed.

I wish it would snow here, for snow is an insulator....

[D&J]

Some of you have such a rich heritage!

Agreed!!

I am so thankful for grandfathers on both sides of my family that were men who walked with God!!

And my Mom and Dad are both awesome people!! My Dad is a walking Bible and also a walking history book!!!

:horn

[D&J]

I love Bro & Sis McNair though.. I remember when they used to visit in New Denmark a couple of times and I would sit there and listen to him & dad talk.

I can beleive this!! And you probably sat there for a llllllooooonnnngggg while!!

:santathumb

[Rachel]

Usually.. I might have piped up once or twice too!

[Felicity]

Agreed!!

I am so thankful for grandfathers on both sides of my family that were men who walked with God!!

And my Mom and Dad are both awesome people!! My Dad is a walking Bible and also a walking history book!!!

:hornIt's good to be thankful and to recognize the blessings and advantages that come from having such a rich Christian heritage.

My dad's family were all Baptist. Devout. My mom won my dad to Pentecost through witnessing to him. I've read a lot of the letters that went back and forth between them while they were dating. Very interesting! Mom was quite the preacher! :) Dad never really had an experience with God until after, through mom's witness and influence, he started attending a Pentecostal church.

My mom was the one who brought her sisters and mother into Pentecost. They, unlike she though, never accepted the Oneness message.

[Felicity]

Snowing here! The view out my back window here is beautiful!

[Mrs. LPW]

Snowing here! The view out my back window here is beautiful!

Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.

[Truly Blessed]

Agreed!!

I am so thankful for grandfathers on both sides of my family that were men who walked with God!!

And my Mom and Dad are both awesome people!! My Dad is a walking Bible and also a walking history book!!!

:hornYour dad's love of history and his knowledge of history so impressed me in Bible School and peaked my own interest in history. I just wish I had his memory for retaining what I read!

[Felicity]

Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.It's snowing hard right now. We probably have about 2 inches on the ground. A park borders our house at the back and the trees look so beautiful with a heavy coating of snow.

It's supposed to turn to rain later I guess.

I always hated 'green' Christmases back home. Just didn't seem like Christmas without snow. And snow on Christmas Eve and Christmas day was perfect.

[D&J]

Your dad's love of history and his knowledge of history so impressed me in Bible School and peaked my own interest in history. I just wish I had his memory for retaining what I read!


True, very true...

He is always calling me and quoting stuff he read years ago, it is amazing!! That trait did not get on me :christmoose

[D&J]

Do you have much snow?
We're supposed to get rain for Christmas here.


So are we... you must be quite close to us here???

[Rachel]

Yeah. Pretty close. ;)

[Mrs. LPW]

Big city folks, we is

[Truly Blessed]

Have a fantastic day everyone!

[Maple Leaf]

First of all, I want to say that I enjoy creative, interpretive dance. I have been deeply moved on so many occasions while watching interpretive dance in worship.

However, I wondered as I watched this if an apology has been given to churches like Smythe Street Cathedral who have been criticized for years for having interpretive dance as part of their worship service. The difference that I observe is that the UPC churches tend to like songs that are more of a rock and roll style that has lots of energy, whereas most creative dance I have seen is slower and tend to have more elegant, professional dance routines. Perhaps that will come as this ministry develops.

I applaud CCC for introducing interpretive dance to their worship. Dance was intended to be very much a part of our worship of God. I don't believe the dance mentioned in scripture is what most Pentecostal churches have and call "shockamoo". God is a creative and orderly God, not one of chaos and confusion.

There's my ramblings for the day. :)

I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

6MEhMa2hwbQ

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.

[Maple Leaf]

Have a fantastic day everyone!

And you as well, Pastor Blessed.

You must be having a quieter than usual Christmas - Christmas is hectic in the pastorate, but a happy hectic.

You'll be missing the grandchildren this Christmas, but Bro. Mike is grinning over having them home.

[The Senator]

I worshipped at Smythe Street Cathedral back in the early sixties when it was still known as the Argyle Street Pentecostal Church. There was dancing but no choreographed dancers.

[Mrs. LPW]

I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

6MEhMa2hwbQ

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.

I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...

[Maple Leaf]

I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...

"Sign," as in sign language for the deaf?

I have never seen liturgical dancers that were immodest or provocative - I'm agin' being either immodest or provocative in the name of the Lord.

I have seen liturgical dancers who were modest, extraordinarily well choreographed and whose worship was very beautiful.

This is a difficult discussion because it has a video attached to it, a video clip of some great young people praising the Lord in a very expressive manner.

Liturgical dancing under the banner of "sign" is a whole separate discussion.

[Maple Leaf]

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...


On this we certainly agree.

[TRIPLE E]

I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

6MEhMa2hwbQ

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.

I have to say this song ,sung the way it was is an all-time favorite of mine.If I were a few years younger and a few pounds lighter I'd be right up there joinin -em!

[Mrs. LPW]

"Sign," as in sign language for the deaf?

I have never seen liturgical dancers that were immodest or provocative - I'm agin' being either immodest or provocative in the name of the Lord.

I have seen liturgical dancers who were modest, extraordinarily well choreographed and whose worship was very beautiful.

This is a difficult discussion because it has a video attached to it, a video clip of some great young people praising the Lord in a very expressive manner.

Liturgical dancing under the banner of "sign" is a whole separate discussion.

Yes, that's my church as well as Monkeyman's.
They don't do much by way of dance, they do what they call interpretive sign... not all of it is official sign language. All the ladies wear the same "flowy-ishing" tops so there is no immodesty.

That is (correct me if I'm wrong anyone from CCC) the most upbeat song they do. Most of their songs are slower, and are mostly hand movement and expression and some acting... That's the one song they move around more on. They are under the umbrella of drama team. The "sticks" are as well.

[Maple Leaf]

Yes, that's my church as well as Monkeyman's.
They don't do much by way of dance, they do what they call interpretive sign... not all of it is official sign language. All the ladies wear the same "flowy-ishing" tops so there is no immodesty.

That is (correct me if I'm wrong anyone from CCC) the most upbeat song they do. Most of their songs are slower, and are mostly hand movement and expression and some acting... That's the one song they move around more on. They are under the umbrella of drama team. The "sticks" are as well.

Very interesting.

Would I be correct to say that Interpretive Sign involves hand movements, and is to be distinguished from Interpretive Dance which is more whole bodied?

Please understand that I am in no way critical of either signing or dancing, but am curious about the concept of Interpretive Sign?

[Maple Leaf]

I have to say this song ,sung the way it was is an all-time favorite of mine.If I were a few years younger and a few pounds lighter I'd be right up there joinin -em!

We'll have to get together a major UPBI reunion bash and show the youngsters how to get down with style. The world needs to see a bunch of overweight aging baby boomers doing the boogie-woogie for Jesus.

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

Ahhhhh, even in Canada, threads evolve into standards discussion.

:yahoo






(I thought the "dancing" overboard too. Maybe if the audience had got with it better....) :shhh

[Maple Leaf]

Ahhhhh, even in Canada, threads evolve into standards discussion.

:yahoo






(I thought the "dancing" overboard too. Maybe if the audience had got with it better....) :shhh

I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).

I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.

[Maple Leaf]

I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.

I think that the value in using a sound track for such a performance is the consistency of the product and the difficulty in finding someone to play and sing a song a thousand times while the performers get their moves down pat.

[D&J]

Had a wonderful Christmas Concert and Drama this morning at New Life.

Good crowd, good acting and a wonderful presence of the Lord!!

[Mrs. LPW]

Very interesting.

Would I be correct to say that Interpretive Sign involves hand movements, and is to be distinguished from Interpretive Dance which is more whole bodied?

Yes, I would say so. They never do "dance" moves. The jumping on that song is about the only dance they do. And on a regular Sun service we don't have fog and lights. I'm not sure when exactly that was recorded, I'm guessing Youth Explosion.

Please understand that I am in no way critical of either signing or dancing, but am curious about the concept of Interpretive Sign?

I don't believe I've seen or heard of any UPC church doing actual choreographed dances... someone can correct me if I'm wrong though. A lot of churches have been doing the signing though.

Boomm, I certainly wasn't referring to standards when I said our girls were wearing flowing garments while doing their thing... just that they were modest about it. (as opposed to the secular dance troupe I had seen at a gospel event recently

[Mrs. LPW]

I was surprised with the talent there, they used a soundtrack. Oh well, they are not my Saints....

I used to say how much I disliked the McGruders, and the Lord pricked my heart on that matter.

I am TOTALLY with you on the sound track thing... I never cared for canned music in church for some reason. But the point of practicing is a good one... imagine how tired Mrs. Monkeyman would be of playing that song!!!:jolly

I'm not a country all the time girl myself, I like a good variety.. but I also like to understand the words I'm hearing and have my hearing in tact at the end of service too!! I think I'm a young woman trapped in an old woman's body or something.

[Mrs. LPW]

Had a wonderful Christmas Concert and Drama this morning at New Life.

Good crowd, good acting and a wonderful presence of the Lord!!

I love Christmas time... the plays and the music!

[TRIPLE E]

We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!

[Mrs. LPW]

We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!

...and which church was that?:christmoose

[D&J]

We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!

Wonderful... glad to hear it!!

We will have a Christmas Eve Carol Sing tomorrow night. It is always a wonderful time!!

[Destiny2]

We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!

[Maple Leaf]

Wonderful... glad to hear it!!

We will have a Christmas Eve Carol Sing tomorrow night. It is always a wonderful time!!

The Christmas Eve service is one of my favourite parts of the whole church Christmas celebration. We intersperse readings of the Christmas story, from the Anunciation to Mary to the Wise Men's visit, with Christmas carols, and have a short, but inspiring (I hope), message from the pastor, and conclude with Christmas cookies and punch (Kool Aid drill).

We were going to have an interpretive dance troupe, dressed as elves, do Jingle Bell Rock, but I've got under conviction over that, so, now, we're just going to have a brother that talks with his hands do one of the readings and call it Interpretive Sign. :penguin:penguin:penguin

[Maple Leaf]

We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!


And, on Tuesday, an ecumenical gathering of clergy and saints around the carcass of a dead turkey.

:christmasjig:christmasjig:christmasjig

[Barb]

We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!
Wonderful news, Mother D...:star

[Barb]

And, on Tuesday, an ecumenical gathering of clergy and saints around the carcass of a dead turkey.

:christmasjig:christmasjig:christmasjig



:thwak

[Truly Blessed]

And you as well, Pastor Blessed.

You must be having a quieter than usual Christmas - Christmas is hectic in the pastorate, but a happy hectic.

You'll be missing the grandchildren this Christmas, but Bro. Mike is grinning over having them home.You're right about that!

[Truly Blessed]

I have never seen the Smythe Street interpretive dances... so I'm not commenting on those, but I was to an event recently where there was a choreographed dance to a popular worship song. It wasn't mostly sign, with modestly dressed young people filled with the Holy Ghost themselves doing it... it was a secular dance troupe, dressed in tight form fitted ballet outfits doing a dance that in some parts was provocative.

I still can't agree with just anything being done in the name of worship...I agree. Whatever type of dance is being done modesty needs to be practiced. Anything that fails to edify Christ and the Body of Christ has no place in worship IMHO.

[Truly Blessed]

I liked the dancing.

I've have liked it even more if it had been to a good McGruder song.

I'd as soon have a root canal with a rototiller as listen to very much of that music.:penguin:penguin

The lights and smoke were great. I might try a strobe and some pyrotechnics the next time I preach on the nether world (and the music that is spawned there).

:jolly:jolly:jolly:jolly

[Truly Blessed]

We had a beautiful Candlelight service tonight at our church with some nice hot apple cider and shortbread cookies!Where is the church headed anyway????? Hot apple cider and shortbread replacing grape juice and crackers! What next???? Santa Claus? :)

[Monkeyman]

I imported this thread because of its Canadian content.

I also enjoy liturgical dance, if done well.

I enjoyed the energy of Monkeyman's team - it was great!

6MEhMa2hwbQ

I grew up in Fredericton when Smythe Street was the "talk of the town," but if we apologized to everybody for our changing ideas every time an idea changed, we'd not have any time to preach the Gospel.

Imitation is still the sincerest form of flattery, and probably the best apology.My response to TB is in my thread..."Monkeyman presents High Praise".

[BoredOutOfMyMind]

And, on Tuesday, an ecumenical gathering of clergy and saints around the carcass of a dead turkey.

:christmasjig:christmasjig:christmasjig



Pause now to reflect on this important event....

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f75/BoredOOMM/carcass.jpg

[TRIPLE E]

We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!

Great news Sis.Destiny! God is indeed good all the time!

[Mrs. LPW]

We had 5 baptised in Jesus Name this morning ,a baby dedication,a choir miniconcert,a stirring message on the Light of the world with a good response.
Tonight ,Sunday school concert and tomorrow night a candlelight service
God is good.!!

Love to hear about the baptisms!
Wonderful.

[Mrs. LPW]

Pause now to reflect on this important event....


If I have no appetite when I sit down to our Turkey dinner tonight I'll blame you!

[TRIPLE E]

Wishing everyone a very Merry Christmas! God bless each one from sea to shining sea!

[D&J]

Our Christmas Eve Carol Sing went very well tonight.

A wonderful presence of the Lord moved in and then Rev HD began to sing and all I can say is wow!!

[D&J]

I see all the Canadians are not yet over feasting and family!!

We had a great day yesterday, thank God for friends and family....

[Rachel]

Happy Boxing Day ;)

[Truly Blessed]

For us it is literally a Boxing Day as we pack for our return trip to NB on Saturday, December 29th. Please pray for a safe trip as we make this 10-12 day journey by U Haul through the USA. The weather has been pretty bad of late in some of these states we will travel through.

[seguidordejesus]

For us it is literally a Boxing Day as we pack for our return trip to NB on Saturday, December 29th. Please pray for a safe trip as we make this 10-12 day journey by U Haul through the USA. The weather has been pretty bad of late in some of these states we will travel through.

Wow, I thought you guys were staying in BC. Which town will you be staying in in NB?

[Maple Leaf]

I see all the Canadians are not yet over feasting and family!!

We had a great day yesterday, thank God for friends and family....

Yup, I had a great Christmas.

I even visited with some of D&J's relatives.:killinme

[Truly Blessed]

It's very thoughtful of you to remember those in prison over the holidays!:jolly

[D&J]

It's very thoughtful of you to remember those in prison over the holidays!:jolly

:santathumb There are some of my relatives that should be in prison for sure but it is their "brain" power that keeps them out!!! :jolly

[Truly Blessed]

:santathumb There are some of my relatives that should be in prison for sure but it is their "brain" power that keeps them out!!! :jolly :santathumb:santathumb:santathumb

[D&J]

Wow, I thought you guys were staying in BC. Which town will you be staying in in NB?


Interesting question, which seems to be being ignored... :christmoose

[Truly Blessed]

Interesting question, which seems to be being ignored... :christmooseIt IS an interesting question isn't it! :)

[Barb]

It IS an interesting question isn't it! :)



...he knoweth the way that I take... Job 23:10 :star

[Maple Leaf]

It IS an interesting question isn't it! :)

I pray that you will walk in the path of blessing wherever the will of God may lead you and Sis. Felicity.

[Maple Leaf]

Please pray for the Bragdon family.

Alex is enjoying the glories of heaven since shortly after 11p.m. last night.

A good man who has left a young wife and three beautiful daughters.

May the peace of God's presence and the consolation of the Holy Ghost be with them today.

[Destiny2]

Alex was a tremendous young man who has left an outstanding example to all of what it is to be a Christian regardless of what life throws at you .He will be sorely missed not only by his family but by his church family and friends.He is a brother to Richard Bragdon, the assistant pastor to Bro.Beesley at Sunset church.My prayers are with the Bragdon family as they look to God for strength at this difficult time.

[Truly Blessed]

I want to add my condolences and prayers for the the Alex Bragdon Family. He certainly left a amazing witness of being a committed Christian. He proved that if we are in the world, but not of this world we will discover what is truly meaningful in life, no matter how difficult or painful life becomes. While suffering unimaginable physical pain Jesus loved people anyway. Like Jesus, Alex proved that no matter what life hands us, we can demonstrate how to respond in a way that is consistent with our spirit and our faith. He has impacted many lives at Sunset Church from what my relatives tell me.

[Felicity]

I pray that you will walk in the path of blessing wherever the will of God may lead you and Sis. Felicity.Thank you for this dear Maple Leaf sir. I'd give you a big hug if you were here. :jolly

[D&J]

Thank you for this dear Maple Leaf sir. I'd give you a big hug if you were here. :jolly

Hmmm, wellllll I would like to be there to see that :jolly

[Felicity]

Hmmm, wellllll I would like to be there to see that :jollyWell, if you had been in the right place at the right time at the Summer Summit you would have. Hehe.

If you'd been with us another evening you might have seen the the camp Bible teacher grab my hand and walk me to the car too. There are definite advantages to age. ;)

:D:D:D

[Mrs. LPW]

:snowing

AGAIN!

Going to be a real good one today I hear.

[Barb]

:snowing

AGAIN!

Going to be a real good one today I hear.

I spoke with a friend in NB this morning, and she said it is snowing...again...:snowing

[Birdie]

For us it is literally a Boxing Day as we pack for our return trip to NB on Saturday, December 29th. Please pray for a safe trip as we make this 10-12 day journey by U Haul through the USA. The weather has been pretty bad of late in some of these states we will travel through.

Enjoy your travels and enjoy the ministry in Temperance Vale. I had the wrong TB going to Sussex. Me bad!

[D&J]

Enjoy your travels and enjoy the ministry in Temperance Vale. I had the wrong TB going to Sussex. Me bad!

Temperance Vale???

This is very interesting!!

[D&J]

I spoke with a friend in NB this morning, and she said it is snowing...again...:snowing

Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!
Let it snow!!

:snowman

[D&J]

And now for some other news...

It seems as tho we have an election in SS....

:christmoose

[Mrs. LPW]

And now for some other news...

It seems as tho we have an election in SS....

:christmoose

what's this? what's this? what's this?

[TRIPLE E]

Enjoy your travels and enjoy the ministry in Temperance Vale. I had the wrong TB going to Sussex. Me bad!

Wow this is very interesting news!

[TRIPLE E]

Enjoy your travels and enjoy the ministry in Temperance Vale. I had the wrong TB going to Sussex. Me bad!

If TB is leaving TV ,I wonder how many will be feeling the call-I guess we won't have to wait for spring to see some movement in the AD.

[TRIPLE E]

Just talking to someone from the Vale they had no idea TB is leaving.

[Destiny2]

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!! :newyear

[Barb]

HAPPY NEW YEAR to all!! :newyear

Happy New year, Mother D...:star

We are snowed in!! It's probably a fraction of what y'all have experienced, but I woke to almost 8 inches of snow and a predicted 3 to 4 more on the way...yikes!!:snowing

[Destiny2]

We have had more snow than what I want,big storm yesterday and an other one coming tonight and tomorrow,please dont send any more our way. lol:snowman

[Barb]

We have had more snow than what I want,big storm yesterday and an other one coming tonight and tomorrow,please dont send any more our way. lol:snowman

Yes, I understand they cancelled services last night in your area...:snowing