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Originally Posted by mfblume
That's not actually the best question. In our chats, the best question is whether or not the work of the cross alone saves by being GOD'S work, or does OUR OWN works apart from the cross save?
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my answer is "yes," although you seem to insist on the "apart from the cross" thing, whereas it is actually "carrying the cross," as the First Son did, after first telling the Father that he would not. You have not, ever, treated this response, either. Don't worry, i understand why.
"3Hish divine poweri has given us everything required for life and godliness through the knowledgej of Him who calledk us byl His own glory and goodness. 4By these He has given us very great and precious promises,m so that through them you may share in the divine nature,n escaping the corruption that is in the world because of evil desires. 5For this very reason, make every effort to supplement your faith with goodness, goodness with knowledge, 6knowledge with self-control,o self-control with endurance, endurance with godliness, 7godliness with brotherly affection,p and brotherly affection with love. 8For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they will keep you from being uselessq or unfruitfulr in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9The person who lacks these things is blind and shortsighted and has forgotten the cleansing from his past sins. 10Therefore, •brothers, make every effort to confirm your calling and election,s because if you do these things you will never stumble. 11For in this way, entry into the eternal kingdomt of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be richly supplied to you."
So, my answer is "make every effort." You have to do stuff. This does not negate the cross, when the principle is understood. And God is going to test you, to make sure you understand it. If you do good deeds expecting reward you will shortly be disillusioned. Most people quit at that point, and become Lawyers for the Cause, and start proclaiming OSAS. However, you will know you are doing it right when people are trying to kill you. Until then, you are arguably kidding yourself.
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