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Originally Posted by mfblume
How is loving one another to go to heaven not salvation by works?
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well, it
is salvation by works, of course; if "throwing the gift away" is damnation by works. Works either affect one's salvation, or they do not. You can't have it both ways. You either embrace OSAS or salvation by works.
And, i guess it is not salvation by works if the works come from faith, rather than a belief that you can earn your way to forgiveness. So i guess "forgive, and you will be forgiven" should be "be forgiven, and you will forgive." Either that or we might seek a better understanding of "not by works, lest any man should boast." Does that verse have any backup?
I'm doing this to highlight the absurdity of believing that one is qualified to determine "saved or lost" in another individual, or even themselves. Aside from displaying a complete lack of humility, it also does no justice to the concept, which i am convinced we completely misinterpret. The proof is in the fact that one cannot say "that guy who just made a solemn confession at the altar, and got baptized, is saved and going to heaven," or "that OP pastor who just got caught in adultery is lost, and going to hell."