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Originally Posted by Titus2woman
Be that what it may we are now able to see infants in the womb via sonogram and laparoscopy. We are able to save their lives at very early gestational ages outside the womb and technology will roll that age back even further soon. So we now KNOW they are human, feel pain, respond to stimulus, etc. If people were unsure before they can certainly be sure now from a medical standpoint, religion aside.
I don't think any scripture is going to satisfy you frog and it's the reason I haven't quoted any... but aborting healthy babies from healthy mothers does not fit the 'Be fruitful and multiply' model at all.
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Neither does contraception but I'm sure you're okay with that.
Medicine does not answer the question of what is a human being. Medicine says look we can see the fetus and at certain ages of development it looks startlingly human. So what? We knew it would eventually look human if it came out looking like a human. So what if it feels pain. Cows feel pain too but we still grind them into hamburgers every day.
The one thing I can agree with you on is that we are eventually going to be able to get fetuses out and alive at very early ages. That's amazing and will play a major role in ending abortions.
Having a fetus outside the womb and living still doesn't necessitate that it's a human being though.
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