The text this woman read was the size of a business card. You get that right? It was a fragment.
The text merely read "Jesus said to them 'my wife'" which is not much to go on. You get that right?
Jesus said to His disciples "My mother", does that make the disciples literally His mother? Did you get that Timmy?
Did you get that what Jesus did NOT say was "he said to her, my wife" as if he was describing a woman as someone he was married to? You don't get that?
Timmy let me sum it up this way. Timmy, a business card sized fragment of a parchment that leaves out MOST of what was written is not much to go on nor is the words "Jesus said to them, my wife"....you don't get that there are words missing that might explain this better in context?
I thought it was pretty clear. Timmy it's absurd to draw the conclusion Jesus had a wife from that. Is that understandable?
It must be clear since I understand it.
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The text this woman read was the size of a business card. You get that right? It was a fragment.
The text merely read "Jesus said to them 'my wife'" which is not much to go on. You get that right?
Jesus said to His disciples "My mother", does that make the disciples literally His mother? Did you get that Timmy?
Did you get that what Jesus did NOT say was "he said to her, my wife" as if he was describing a woman as someone he was married to? You don't get that?
Timmy let me sum it up this way. Timmy, a business card sized fragment of a parchment that leaves out MOST of what was written is not much to go on nor is the words "Jesus said to them, my wife"....you don't get that there are words missing that might explain this better in context?
I thought it was pretty clear. Timmy it's absurd to draw the conclusion Jesus had a wife from that. Is that understandable?
Did you notice the quotation marks (single, because they are within a quotation)?
"Jesus said to them, 'my wife'"
The punctuation is likely not in the original, but it indicates the translators' understanding of who said what. It (if the translators are correct) indicates that Jesus spoke the words "my wife" to "them" (His disciples), at some point in the conversation.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Translation
1 ] “not [to] me. My mother gave to me li[fe…”
2 ] The disciples said to Jesus, “.[
3 ] deny. Mary is worthy of it
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4 ]……” Jesus said to them, “My wife . .[
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5 ]… she will be able to be my disciple . . [
6 ] Let wicked people swell up … [
7] As for me, I dwell with her in order to . [
8] an image [
1 ] my moth[er
2 ] three [
3 ] … [
4 ] forth which … [
5 ] (illegible ink traces)
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Or alternatively: Mary is n[ot] worthy of it.
Why would Jesus marry anyone knowing he would die at a young age? And why wasn't his widow at his crucifixion and why wasn't she included in the implied command to John to take care of Mary his mother. Does Jesus only care for his mother? None of this makes sense with scripture.
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To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
Why would Jesus marry anyone knowing he would die at a young age? And why wasn't his widow at his crucifixion and why wasn't she included in the implied command to John to take care of Mary his mother. Does Jesus only care for his mother? None of this makes sense with scripture.
I'm a little confused about one thing: Would it be somehow awful if Jesus had a wife?
I read stories like this with interest, and while I wouldn't be willing to accept it as "definitive proof" that Jesus had a wife, it doesn't bother me.
Why be defensive or worried about something that doesn't affect the Gospel one way or the other?
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To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
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Jesus also said to THEM "My mother"
Notice the quote, Jesus said to THEM my wife
Not Jesus said to her not Jesus said to them my wives
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Originally Posted by Timmy
Did you notice the quotation marks (single, because they are within a quotation)?
"Jesus said to them, 'my wife'"
The punctuation is likely not in the original, but it indicates the translators' understanding of who said what. It (if the translators are correct) indicates that Jesus spoke the words "my wife" to "them" (His disciples), at some point in the conversation.
Yes Timmy I did notice
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I read it to mean that Jesus was speaking TO the disciples ABOUT His wife.
Not that He was addressing "them" as "my wife...."
Of course, the most obvious conclusion in light of other scripture is that he was referring to "His bride"--the Church.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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