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Originally Posted by Livelystone
Sin is an ugly thing anyway you look at it until viewed as part of the overall plan that includes the future for all of mankind and not just a few individuals. (As in Jesus is the saviour of the world and especially of those who believe; 1 Timothy 4:10).
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Wow where to start. First off there is no angle at which sin can be viewed to make it anything but ugly and terrible.
Secondly sin has no redeeming qualities and as to how it relates to the whole world is clearly shown in the bible as:
Those who through faith in the death of Jesus on the cross have had it removed they go to heaven.
Those who choose to live in sin and die in sin they go to eternal punishment in the lake of fire for eternity.
please show me how sin brightens that picture at all?
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Originally Posted by Livelystone
God was not caught by surprise when Adam sinned, and for that matter Adam's sin was part of the plan that would result in evil being sentenced to death.
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To say that God planned for Adam to sin is 100% false and can be easily be shown so in two basic ways:
1. This makes God not Adam the one who chose for sin.
2. This would make God not mankind responsible for ending up hell.
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Originally Posted by Livelystone
In my opinion once we understand this we can go about seeing how God's ultimate plan for man had to be kept hidden throughout the ages. However when fully understood by those who will be first to overcome sin, will be shown onto the world by the church who through knowledge and grace from above has already overcome sin.
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Please further explain what you aresaying here.
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