What did Jesus Come to Save us From?

[Dichotomy Girl]

Originally Posted by n david

In order to understand this, you would have to believe the Bible is the Word of God. IIRC, in a previous post you say the Bible is a collection of writings and not the Word of God. Because of that, you can't understand what was stated above.

The Bible says all have sinned; we were born in iniquity, conceived in sin. The reason Jesus came was to fulfill OT prophecy and to be the once and for all payment for sin. Without his death, burial and resurrection, we would be without hope of eternal life.

Contrary to your universal reconciliation belief, the Bible clearly states the wages of sin is death (which is permanent); it does not say the wages of sin is a stint in rehab or some temporary judgement.

There is a literal Heaven. There is a literal Hell. People can make up beliefs and doctrines to make themselves feel better, but it doesn't change the truth.

Using the Bible, then, that you believe to be the Word of God. Perhaps you can answer the following question:

Jesus promised to send the following after He left to guide us into truth:

a.) A Pastor
b.) A collection of writings, put together in book form by several Christian Councils
c.) The Holy Spirit

As I have by your own rules, been baptized in the Holy Spirit (with the initial evidence of speaking in tongues), I am therefore indwelt by said Spirit, and therefore have the necessary tools to be led to Truth.

Not believing that the Bible is inerrant or 100% authoritative does not mean that I do not find it a valuable tool. I have stated many times that I believe that it's purpose is to lead one to relationship with Jesus. And a relationship with Jesus should lead one to the infilling of the Holy Spirit, which among other things is the way that God communicates with us.