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Re: Respect as Women
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
Right, it would be their choice. But it is not as simple as your post makes it sound. In truth, the reality is that you can feel excluded by not following the rules....
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PO, I'm a very pragmatic person, and for me, it is that simple. Women can either live this way or not. Women choose to live according to Islam or not. Women choose orthodox Judaism--or not. You either live according to the Apostolic culture or you don't. It's a choice--not an easy one--but a choice and the consequences either way are mine to own. There are benefits and drawbacks either way, so the trick is in weighing whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks or whether you can tolerate the drawbacks.
For the record, I'm not likely to be sympathetic with my children for feeling excluded because of a rule. You either comply accordingly or you don't. If you don't want to follow the rules, you shouldn't be surprised or upset when you're either naturally excluded or when people purposely exclude you. Do you think a Muslim woman would be surprised to be excluded if she refused to wear her head covering? That would be silly on her part. I would only feel sympathetic if I felt my children weren't understanding the dynamics of the situation and if they were truly feeling hurt as a result. Otherwise it's the "that's no big deal" approach.
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...While lining out your defense, you have to add in this detail into the issue and conversation. It is a huge choice to have to make.
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I'm not sure I understand this part: "While lining out your defense...." I agree that it's a huge choice, but there are other variables that determine whether or not it's a painful choice.
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