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Originally Posted by MissBrattified
PO, I'm a very pragmatic person, and for me, it is that simple. Women can either live this way or not. Women choose to live according to Islam or not. Women choose orthodox Judaism--or not. You either live according to the Apostolic culture or you don't. It's a choice--not an easy one--but a choice and the consequences either way are mine to own. There are benefits and drawbacks either way, so the trick is in weighing whether the benefits outweigh the drawbacks or whether you can tolerate the drawbacks.
For the record, I'm not likely to be sympathetic with my children for feeling excluded because of a rule. You either comply accordingly or you don't. If you don't want to follow the rules, you shouldn't be surprised or upset when you're either naturally excluded or when people purposely exclude you. Do you think a Muslim woman would be surprised to be excluded if she refused to wear her head covering? That would be silly on her part. I would only feel sympathetic if I felt my children weren't understanding the dynamics of the situation and if they were truly feeling hurt as a result. Otherwise it's the "that's no big deal" approach.
I'm not sure I understand this part: "While lining out your defense...." I agree that it's a huge choice, but there are other variables that determine whether or not it's a painful choice.
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Yes, women do make choices. But your girls aren't women. They are underage and live in your house and under your care. They pretty much have to deal with whatever you and your husband are doing and where you attend church. I only refer to them as you have already mentioned your discussions with them. Although, I would respect you and your family by not going too far with the discussion here.
I am only looking at that as though my own children lived with me. I am just saying that giving them a choice would have caused a divide in my home if one child was sitting on the fence. If I am following the will of God, and we have, they are part of that choice.
My daughter is very talented and has to be "doing" something all the time. Now that she is older and gone, she has had to make that choice - because it was hers to make. While others followed the standards they didn't believe in, to keep their positions, she opted to be truthful about it and lost hers. So, going between two churches that are polar opposites, she wants to be in the one where she feels freedom in the Spirit. That choice happens to be a standard teaching church.
Anyway, from my perspective, it just isn't as easy as you made it sound in your posts. That's all I am saying. In the discussion of "choices", I am saying that I want to lay everything on the table. You didn't mention the difficulty that can be involved and I simply wanted to do that here.
My impression of your posts is that you love the conservative world you live in, so it is not toxic to you. Would that be correct?