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Originally Posted by rdp
LOL - I have offered in-depth syntax, exegesis, lexical quotes, & most importantly, BIBLE - Y'all are merely offering your copy-paste commentaries that agree with you, but disagree with the Bible  .
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I haven't copied and pasted anything except to comment on what you have said, or others.
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Originally Posted by rdp
BTW, though I do not have time to expound in-depth right now (just fitting this in when I am able), Paul was laying down a life-style principle in the following principle (ever heard of the micro-context & macro-context hermeneutic?):
II Thes. 3:6 "Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that ye withdraw yourselves from every brother that walketh disorderly, and not after the tradition which he received of us."
The Greek verb translated "walketh" (περιπατοῦντος) defines as "how one lives their life" ( http://biblehub.com/greek/4043.htm) & is not isolated to just the work-life (or lack there-of). No, I will not fellowship "women-preachers" & the Bible "commands" me not to - Sorry, try again  !
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RDP, I posted the entire context of the verse above, and you have ignored the obvious that Paul was talking about with all your micro-context/macro-context objections. Paul WAS talking about lazy busybodies, and to have no fellowship with those who were not working as a lifestyle of walking, or living.
You are choosing to ignore the obvious, and to play incorrect exegesis with this scripture, to torment folks who don't agree with you, when Paul was dealing with laziness and busybodies, and those who weren't working, and the premise for this scripture that you are waving around is pulled out of context.
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From RDP's translation:
11 Let a woman learn in silence with all submission. 12 And I do not permit a woman to teach or to have authority over a man, but to be in silence. 13 For Adam was formed first, then Eve. 14 And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived, fell into transgression....3.14 I hope to come to you soon, but I am writing these things to you so that, 15 if I delay, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, which is the church of the living God, a pillar and buttress of the truth.
What portion of this do y'all not comprehend ?
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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear
" When we look up the word "man" we find that it is Strong's number 435, this use of man means "husband. "Now if we insert the correct use of the word woman and man the passage now reads as follows: "Let the wife learn in silence with all subjection, But I suffer not a wife to teach, nor to usurp authority over the husband, but to be in silence. For Adam was first formed, then Eve. And Adam was not deceived, but the wife being deceived in the transgression. "
We must be careful to make sure the translation that we read is what is really being said.
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The bold makes PERFECT sense