Your tithes were already paid.

[J.A. Perez]

Originally Posted by Originalist

What you are failing to grasp is that the Christ's words concerning the new birth were prophetic in nature and would be fulfilled and implemented at Pentecost.

Wow, your sounding more and more like preterist. Jesus wasn't prophesying, he was giving a Pharisee the everlasting Gospel in a nutshell.
In fact verse 8 was a factual statement using the types and shadows of the wind as a type of the Spirit, and the ( sound )=Greek -phonay- language. This was not prophesy it was Jesus laying out the exact thing that we still preach. You must be born again of the water and the Spirit and when you receive the Spirit you will speak heavens language.

John 3:8
The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.

Originally Posted by Originalist

The ushering in of the new birth was the ushering in the new covenant and the abolition of the Law with it's ordinances,

Not true, Calvary ushered the New Testament in.
The ceremonial law was done away, at Calvary. That was the testament that was then present, being between God and the Jew. The new birth was only possible after the old had been done away at Calvary.

Hebrews 9:16,17
For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

Originally Posted by Originalist

including the tithe Jesus rebuked the pharisees over.

Read it again, Jesus didn't rebuke the Pharisee for tithing, they were tithing rightly, but they were leaving out essentials of the law, the law, the law, the law, that we still need to do. If Jesus was doing away with tithing the he was also doing away with the other parts of the law he spoke of... Namely - judgment and the love of God. No way!

Luke 11:42
Pharisees! for ye tithe mint and rue and all manner of herbs, and pass over judgment and the love of God: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

Both portions of Scripture were spoken to Pharisee. Pharisee that were under the law. A Pharisee that was under the old covenant. Shall we do away with being born again? Because Jesus spoke to Pharisee in both instances ?
The scripture speaks for it self.