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Originally Posted by mfblume
So, Shazeep, how can Muslims be saved when they teach Jesus did not die on the cross?
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i never said anything about Muslims being saved; this is, and has always been, about anyone who condemns others claiming to be a Christian.
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Originally Posted by mfblume
And how can we forgive them and think that means they're saved? Does our forgiveness save them? Will God forgive them for not believing in the cross?
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What will that matter to you when you are in hell for not being forgiving? And more, in a worse part of hell for teaching this as being Christian? Do we need to review how it is you deem anyone saved or lost again? Read this as hard as you can; Muslims are not the issue here. It is the state of a heart that can so freely condemn while being so blind to self that is.
See why God put Muslims on the earth; it is right there in Scripture, plain to read;
to contend with you. Therefore saying "All ________ are lost" is the same as saying "I am stupid, and do not grasp that if i do not contend, there is no contest." Now this might seem to infer some kind of "anything goes" to you guys, and i have let that go a couple of times, but the truth is that those crying "Lord, Lord" are obviously not accepted, and it is Scripture that makes this clear. Too bad for you.
So be who you will. As you think, so are you. It is great to have a more complete, legal understanding of Christ; with this comes more responsibility, and it is those who understand it that will be judged by that standard, and rewarded for that understanding. Apply it to others in order to condemn them, and claim that God did it all you like; and keep bowing out whenever Scripture admonishes you for this, but keep in mind that you will be known by your fruit, just like anyone else. No one is remembered for their confession.
What you say you believe means less than nothing, to God. Who have you harmed, even inadvertently? Claim the cross, and plead the blood, all you like; you, who understand repentance, will be judged by this; not the one who does not understand it.