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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa
So, you are spiritually bipolar? Sort of like an ecclesiastical Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde? Jesus telling Judeans without the Holy Ghost they needed to not look at women and lust after them. Because that would be already considered adultery by Jesus. Yet, what Jesus was proposing was just some sort of poetic theatrics, because people are saved spiritually, but since they're epidermal tissue, blood, bone, hair, DNA, then that part is sinful? Are you gnostic? Then why on earth did Jesus say that if you even looked with lust at a woman you were committing the act of adultery? Was it because your spirit wasn't sinning, but your DNA was sinning? Do you even know what the term flesh means? It doesn't mean your fingernails, tears, and snot. It is your natural thinking process. Outside of Jesus' influence.
You are still the guy who sends his wife into the house to dress to your specifications. Bro, doing your best is doing this religiously through your own human discipline. This isn't some Shaolin Temple were we train ourselves to be good, to be Christlike. That's Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism. That my boy, is legalism. No matter if you are as barefoot as Jethro, wearing your Old Navy pineapple pattern shorts. If you think any of this is your own human discipline you are a legalist as any Chabad Lubavitcher Rebbe. Again, this is where you liberals drop the watermelon. While you stick your tongues out at the Ultra Conservatives. You guys are straining like a bowel movement passing cider blocks. trying to be Christlike while your inner man wants to cave someone's head in. You have to bite the bullet and through grit teeth, say, "I love you BROTHER!"
Sorry, but all that inner man sweet Jesus is a bunch of malarky if you have a mind full of porn.
You either got a good dose of Holy Ghost speaking in other tongues, or you are just going through the motions. Just waiting to implode and explode all over the pews.
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Well, sounds like you have me all figured out, don't you? So, what's your verdict? Am I lost, backslidden, condemned where I stand? Or, might you claim I never received the Holy Ghost, so I was never saved to begin with? What is it?
Or could it be that something I said was so honest, so authentic, so in tune with your own experience, that it confronts you with your own hypocrisy, so you have no other recourse but to lash out with personal attacks? Do such attacks make you feel like a better man? Does your church give you extra points and pats on the back for saying these things?
Or, perhaps I've got this all wrong. Maybe your purpose is to demonstrate how wonderfully sinless and perfect you are. Maybe your purpose is to be such a fine example of holiness that I'll just fall at your feet in adoration.
I've been in this 28 years. I have no reason to stand here and pretend to be sinless, and I won't. I know who died for me. I know I'm an undeserving wretch, even on my best days. If I do get to heaven, I'm not worthy to enter even if it were to only shine your shoes.
I believe in the doctrine of grace. I believe that God loves you, even though you set out to purposefully hurt and offend me. And I'll gladly take what you have to offer. Because, I know that as long as you're scourging me wide open...you're not browbeating some poor soul who might be on the edge of losing their faith completely. I don't think you're lost. In fact, the grace that has saved me in my admitted imperfections, saves you in yours. You're only doing this because you're religion hasn't taught you better.
I believe in the doctrines of redemption.
1. Corporate Election (God's choice to save whosoever will enter into the body of Christ)
2. Predestination (God's predetermined glory for the church)
3. Atonement (Christ's work of satisfying the Laws demands for the church)
4. Propitiation (Christ's satisfying God's wrath against sin for the church)
5. Prevenient Grace (the Holy Spirit's drawing of the lost to Christ Jesus through both an inner and an outer calling)
6. Conversion (repentance & water baptism)
7. Justification (imputed righteousness received by faith at Conversion)
8. Regeneration (being born of the Spirit as a result of the baptism of the Holy Spirit)
9. Adoption (membership in God's family through the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit received at Regeneration)
10. Sanctification (growing into Christlikeness by taking part in the divine nature through the abiding presence of the Holy Spirit)
11. Death (the cessation of physical life after which one enters the intermediate state wherein the soul is present with the Lord in Heaven awaiting resurrection & glorification)
12. Resurrection & Glorification (receiving a resurrected and glorified body fashioned perfectly after the image of Christ)
And, it's all by grace.
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