It's Either You or Me

[jediwill83]

Oh....and OP...bout that weird looking gun....just toss it to the guy u want shot...or use ur thumb to pull the trigger.lol. just kidding dude....I promise Im on my anti-psychotics.

[stmatthew]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, I believe dying during the course of ministering the Gospel is a very honorable way to die. Sister Alvear has lots of stories of God delivering her and her family members during their time as missionaries. I don't have any stories of Him doing something like that for me, but I have seen Him put a fire out instantly. Still doesn't mean I've gotten rid of every fire extinguisher and smoke detector from my house.

In fact, if y'all are as serious about praying over every single situation that could cause your death, then I suggest you not wear the seatbelts in your car, disconnect the airbags and anti-lock brakes, cancel your homeowner's insurance, and take all the locks off your windows and doors. Afterall, you have enough faith to say without a doubt that God is never going to let you die at the hands of a madman. If He is going to do that for you, then surely you will never get hurt in a car accident, home fire, or ever have anyone break into your home either.

Bro,

I will just disregard your second paragraph, as it is hogwash. It does not represent what we have been saying.


Now please answer my question, because I do not believe you did.


At what point does one obey Matt 5 where it says to "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you"? Is it only if you are preaching at the time you are assaulted that this verse is applicable?

[Old Paths]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

I would like to ask a question of the shooters.



If a missionary is assaulted and the assaulters attempt to kill the missionary and his family, should they follow what Jesus stated in Matt 5, or should they seek to stop the killers from doing their deed?


I guess my question really is, at what point does Matt 5 kick in. Is it only if you are preaching at the time you are assaulted?

Bro. Matt, trying to get astraight answer around these libreal Apostolic would be sinner killers is not going to happen.

All they do, is ridicule and make light of your Christian attitude with their twisted posts.

So sad.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

Brother, I believe dying during the course of ministering the Gospel is a very honorable way to die. Sister Alvear has lots of stories of God delivering her and her family members during their time as missionaries. I don't have any stories of Him doing something like that for me, but I have seen Him put a fire out instantly. Still doesn't mean I've gotten rid of every fire extinguisher and smoke detector from my house.

In fact, if y'all are as serious about praying over every single situation that could cause your death, then I suggest you not wear the seatbelts in your car, disconnect the airbags and anti-lock brakes, cancel your homeowner's insurance, and take all the locks off your windows and doors. Afterall, you have enough faith to say without a doubt that God is never going to let you die at the hands of a madman. If He is going to do that for you, then surely you will never get hurt in a car accident, home fire, or ever have anyone break into your home either.

Rico,

This isn't a valid argument.
Buckling my seatbelt, making sure the backyard Barbecue is out, etc, are all precautionary safety matters that have no bearing on some one else.

The plain fact is there is one question that remains unanswered.

Can a New Testament Apostolic, Holy Ghost, Jesus name believer, get away with blowing some one away?



Scripture please.

[Dimples]

Originally Posted by Old Paths

Bro. Matt, trying to get astraight answer around these libreal Apostolic would be sinner killers is not going to happen.

All they do, is ridicule and make light of your Christian attitude with their twisted posts.

So sad.

And you never do that.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by stmatthew

Bro,

I will just disregard your second paragraph, as it is hogwash. It does not represent what we have been saying.


Now please answer my question, because I do not believe you did.


At what point does one obey Matt 5 where it says to "Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you"? Is it only if you are preaching at the time you are assaulted that this verse is applicable?

I've answered your question in previous posts. In fact, I gave you an example of me loving my enemy.

As for my second paragraph, it very much applies, because it is you and OP who are saying, "Just trust God." If you're going to just trust God, then you should be consistent and not limit God in the protection He gives you.

[Ron]

Originally Posted by Rico

I've answered your question in previous posts. In fact, I gave you an example of me loving my enemy.

As for my second paragraph, it very much applies, because it is you and OP who are saying, "Just trust God." If you're going to just trust God, then you should be consistent and not limit God in the protection He gives you.

Rico, the things we have power over, we need to attend to.
The things we don't have power over--trust God!

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

Rico,

This isn't a valid argument.
Buckling my seatbelt, making sure the backyard Barbecue is out, etc, are all precautionary safety matters that have no bearing on some one else.

The plain fact is there is one question that remains unanswered.

Can a New Testament Apostolic, Holy Ghost, Jesus name believer, get away with blowing some one away?



Scripture please.

Ron, it completely applies. You mean to tell me you can trust God to not have a whacko break into your home and kill you, but you don't trust Him enough to not wear seatbelts in your car? What is the difference? Either way, you are trusting God to protect your life, right? If you don't need a gun to protect your life then you don't need seatbelts either.

[Dimples]

Originally Posted by Ron

Rico, the things we have power over, we need to attend to.
The things we don't have power over--trust God!

Hello....a gun gives you power.

[Rico]

Originally Posted by Ron

Rico, the things we have power over, we need to attend to.
The things we don't have power over--trust God!

You don't have power over when your house catches fire, do you? How about when you have a car accident? You can prevent someone from running into your car from the rear? Stopping some nut from raping my wife is something I most certainly do have power over. I only need enough to point and squeeze the trigger, and pray I don't miss.