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Originally Posted by gloryseeker
I wonder why there is never a thread about the sheep that scatter the Pastors? The statistics are amazing of the number of Pastors that give up because they have no support, no one who will work toward the vision, people bickering over where the piano sits, or some other carnal aspect of the carnal Christians life?
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I have somewhat to say to that. A mature adult Christian can only come about by some mature adult teaching. I know there are some that will never mature, just like in the natural, but most general a child grows up to be exactly what the parent teaches it to become. If the pastor wants mature 'saints' that will support and and work toward the vision the pastor needs to train them that way. If he is carnal and bickers about everything that is exactly what they will do. There is an old saying about monkey see monkey do. I have seen many churches where what you are talking about takes place but when you watch the pastor you can usually find the reason.
I know it is not the case in all instances but for the most part.
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