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Originally Posted by TheLegalist
Mike... they don't want to get it. That's the thing. They have false views of works/law etc... which then goes and floods over to poor views of atonement and baptism, judgment and covenant requirements unto eternal life.
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I agree. Notice there is no inkling of atonement concept in their words. KWSS even said that the difference of the cross is nothing as though it is a stretch to say that before the cross and after the cross there would be a huge difference. Wow. I ,mean, wow.
WE are the ones speaking about atonement and covenantal issues that require an action on our parts by way of standing as faith that works, and by non means Works without faith. And that corresponds to James' words quite perfectly. It's a wonder Noah had to build an ark according to this doctrine!! Why did Abel have to offer a better sacrifice? Why did Abraham take one step at all to go to a land God promised? All of these acted by faith and that action was required and did not take the place of salvation by works any more than baptism and Spirit infilling do. Read
Hebrews 11. ACTIONS AFTER ACTION AFTER ACTION by
FAITH. They acted without any evidence that what was said was true, making it an act of faith. And that action alone did not save them since it was faith that works and was action of faith.
So, let us rip out the entire 11th chapter of Hebrews, for that is saying exacvtly what we have related to these folk. And let us rip out
James 2, and, for Heaven's sake, remove Peter's words that say "Baptism doth also now even save us."
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