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Old 04-08-2010, 12:54 PM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

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This is where you're just wrong, Blume. You see, we CAN'T keep up our end of the bargain.
hmmmm So we don' hold up "faithfulness" WOW amazing. Can you saaaaaay false doctrine?

Gen 18:19 I have chosen him52 so that he may command his children and his household after him to keep53 the way of the LORD by doing54 what is right and just. Then the LORD will give55 to Abraham what he promised56 him."

Gen 22:12 "Do not harm the boy!"25 the angel said.26 "Do not do anything to him, for now I know27 that you fear28 God because you did not withhold your son, your only son, from me."
Gen 22:13 Abraham looked up29 and saw30 behind him31 a ram caught in the bushes by its horns. So he32 went over and got the ram and offered it up as a burnt offering instead of his son.
Gen 22:14 And Abraham called the name of that place "The LORD provides."33 It is said to this day,34 "In the mountain of the LORD provision will be made."35
Gen 22:15 The LORD's angel called to Abraham a second time from heaven
Gen 22:16 and said, " 'I solemnly swear by my own name,'36 decrees the LORD,37 'that because you have done this and have not withheld your son, your only son,
Gen 22:17 I will indeed bless you,38 and I will greatly multiply39 your descendants40 so that they will be as countless as the stars in the sky or the grains of sand on the seashore. Your descendants will take possession41 of the strongholds42 of their enemies.
Gen 22:18 Because you have obeyed me,43 all the nations of the earth will pronounce blessings on one another44 using the name of your descendants.' "

Gen 26:4 I will multiply your descendants so they will be as numerous as the stars in the sky, and I will give them10 all these lands. All the nations of the earth will pronounce blessings on one another using the name of your descendants.11
Gen 26:5 All this will come to pass12 because Abraham obeyed me13 and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws."14

oh and you mean like the same law that JEsus obeyed unto righteousness of which the law gave witness... Like Mark 12:29-31 and that he gives us to obey as well? Oh that one! John 15! Yeah... obedience has nothing to do with salvation... (sarcasm)




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That was obvious since Abraham on... that's the beauty of the Gospel. The covenantal part of that is God original covenant continued, he'd save those who believe in him by faith."
Again define faith. Faith must have "context" Faith cometh by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. What is said defines "faith" and it's context and restrictions.

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He's made that possible through Jesus. To employ new ways of entering into covenant is simply in error.
SHOW ME THE COVENANT ENTERED INTO IN GEN 15


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Repentance is what one does BECAUSE OF faith, not to prove their faith. Faith has already happened. We stand justified at that moment.
yes and no... Your "response" being considered "just" does not mean you are IN covenant it means your offering will be accepted as he has judged your heart. Baptism is the place of offering to be united WITH Christ and his death UNTO new life. Which is why again you fail to understand "justice" done and how God judged Abraham's "REPONSE"!

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The cross makes all the difference in the world.
It does but it only is "part" of the whole not the whole in itself.

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What has not changed is God's everlasting and eternal covenant with His people, which was redeveloped in the New Testament to finally include Gentiles, part of God's plan all along (not just a Plan B repudiation against the Jews).
uh the gentiles could always enter into covenant with God and become a part of his chosen people.

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