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AGAIN!!! (sigh) Let me know when you are going to discuss something.
Anyway, so interesting why one steppers will not say baptism saves by Christ's resurrection, unless forced to quote scripture.
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No one "forced" me to quote
1 Peter 3:21 - I brought it up to show how "getting wet" saves no one. It is clearly the "resurrection of Jesus Christ" that saves us in
1 Peter 3:21. You said as much yourself.
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Meanwhile alleged "three steppers" use these passages all the time, as well as those that seem to one steppers to promote only faith.
So many passages like this will only be repeated by onestep believers when someone points them out to them. The language of the scriptures in these cases is otherwise absent. Be baptized and wash away thy sins. No one stepper would use those words unless reading Acts 22:16. One steppers will not respond to questions of how to be saved with Acts 2:38. The question has not changed but somehow the answer did. |
Empty rhetoric. I brought up
1 Peter 3:21 in this thread, not you and not any of the other "3 Steppers."
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No question by one steppers would be given to someone as Paul asked about Spirit and Water Baptism in Acts 19. |
And yet your 3rd grade English teacher might have some questions about that sentence. What are you trying to say?
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This is my point. The emphasis upon no need for baptism in salvation simply leaves these folks void of speaking the same thing the early church ministers spoke about.
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uh... you okay? The "early church ministers" clearly emphasized the cross and the work of Jesus Christ as being the Gospel and the means of salvation. You have not even attempted to to engage the many, many citations I have made to Scripture. And, when I responded to your list of Scripture passages - rather thoroughly demolishing your arguments - you completely ignored me except to start in with the taunting and name calling.
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We get SOME one steppers thinking they get your point, when they do not stop to consider maybe they MISSED your point, and have ASSUMED that a box for your thoughts is your actual box that they have emphasized as being error, when not at all. And when actual beliefs are presented, the ears are closed and accusations of self contradiction fly.
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uh... what?
Maybe only "SOME" people get my point, however I don't think ANYONE would be capable of getting that last one by you.
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The fact is that baptism is part of salvation if Peter said baptism saves by the resurrection of Jesus. It's right there in black and white! Had baptism never been intended as PART of salvation, the two words "baptism saves" would never be associated as they are in Peter's words.
People quote Peter saying "baptism saves by the resurrection of Jesus" and then say baptism does not save. Bottom line: If baptism had no part at all in salvation, then Peter would not have said baptism saves by the resurrection of Jesus.
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Well, I am glad that you at least are one of those who did somehow manage to get my point. Thanks!
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