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Originally Posted by mfblume
You're listening to notofworks' distortion of my words. Read what I said, myself, throughout the last several days.
I never said righteousness is earned. Somehow, notofworks turned my description of repentance into earning righteousness. I tried saying for days now that when I spoke of releasing sin before I could get the Holy Ghost that it was an instance of me refusing to repent. I was holding ontpo sins that I had no desire to release. I knew deep inside they were wrong, but demanded God show me they were wrong after He filled me with His Spirit. So I continued on with those sins. IOW, I DID NOT ACTUALLY REPENT.
That is all I was saying to begin with, but n.o.w. refused to accept that explanation and for some reason does not want to believe I only described my lack of repentance.
Without repentance, God cannot give us anything, let alone the Holy Ghost. In other words, I cannot get IN CHRIST with sin in my life. And I cannot get rid of sin except by repentance.
Of course righteousness is a state of being we obtain just by being in Christ and it is a gift to us that cannot be earned.
1 John 1 said it well. If we SAY we walk in the light, and commit sin or walk in darkness, we lie. We must confess our sin, which I was not willing to do at the point I described, and God is faithful to wash and cleanse us from all sin. That is REPENTANCE. I refused to so much as confess that some sins were indeed sins. So God could not wash them from me. Get it? lol How you guys make that a concept of earning righteousness is beyond me.
Why do you take EFFORTS TO RELEASE SIN to be something more than repentance? I am only explaining what REPENTANCE is.
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Actually I didn't read NOW's stuff, I read the post one of yours that I quoted so NOW didn't poison the water hole at all.
I could not disagree with the above bolded statement more. Repentance is not me becoming perfect or getting all the sin out of my life. It is me accepting the fact that He paid for my sins, will forgive them and begins the process of cleaning me up and removing the result of sin from my life. I might walk out the door and light up a cigarette and it may be decades or more before that is removed from my life, if ever.
I might struggle and fail many times in many areas, in fact I don't believe I will ever eradicate sin from my being in this life.
You seem to saying that you have to get good to get God. That somehow I can clean myself up enough for God to accept me.
I say the Scripture teaches the exact opposite that we have nothing to offer Him and all our righteousness, the very best we can do, is equivalent to a pile of used maxi-pads.