Truth Seeker
Where do you find that? Peter told the crowd on the day of Pentecost that the Holy Ghost was a gift. And what commandments must be obeyed to be saved? The command to be baptized?
You quoted several scriptures with the words obey and salvation in them trying to prove a point that one must obey someones list of commands to have salvation instituted in their lives.
Well here is a news flash, we know that every translation has its differances because new understanding of the greek come to us as time goes on. But one thing God has never left in confusion is how to be saved. But it is not from a plan of works. It is a plan of faith in God.
What works did the children of Isreal have to obey to be save when bitten by the serpent in OT? They had to look at the serpent Moses had lifted up. Now I guess you could say looking up with faith was a work. Every action can be looked at as a work.
But the only action Jesus said to Nicodemus he had to do was to be born again. And it was not a three part plan.
John 3:1-16, you can try as long as you like to make born of water into baptism but it just is not there in that passage, unless you take verse 3:5 completely out of contex with the rest of the passage. How do you fit water baptism into looking to the cross with faith to be saved, as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wildreness?
Now don't be drugged by the works based teachings that are all around you, just because a word in your KJB is translated
obey does not make it mean what obey in the English language means. Get a good bible dictionary I like Vines. Strongs concordence with the greek and hebrew is good to. If you are not suprised at what you find when you start to check the base meaning of many of the words used to preach works based doctrines I will be suprised.
Just to give you a primer their are at least 3 greek words that are trans. from greed to english as
obey, and only one has the significance given by works based teachings and that is found in
Ephesians 6:1. this verse is not the only example but then don't take my word for it or your pastor, check it out for your self.
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