The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

[Jeffrey]

Originally Posted by TheLegalist

Depends on what you mean by "justified".... eschatological acquittal? Which it is not. Does one mean something judged right? What does this have to do with the New Covenant? Pauls simple point was God can consider a action other than circumcision "righteous" and thus Abraham not at enmity. Circumcision in itself is nothing and has no unique "righteousing power" other than GOD judging "it" a right response just like Abraham and his response he considered "just". God judges our actions whether we are "right" before him. God judges all action just or unjust.

If God says move out of your home and move wherever. Is it the moving objects around that is the "righteousing power and judges me right IN THEMSELVES!" NO, it is my response to his Word to completion that "he" judges right. THe moving in itself is not what is "holy" but the source and reason why I move is considered holy or right and set apart. Thus God judges the actions "just" though the objects themselves have no actual holiness unto themselves. Thus circumcision is simply cutting of flesh. It though under the law(divine order) with faith attached to it from the heart was righteous to do. The cutting in itself is nothing without our divine order and your heart turned to God in doing so.

Interesting. So the acquittal has no eschatological implication? It's just for the moment. Do something wrong and SQUASH your gone, Mister?

Where do you keep getting the language "God judging" from? Not that it matters, but it's interesting you keep using that language.

The Law, Circumcision, neither Paul says, were for righteousness (goes against the grain of Jewish thought in Paul's day btw).

You qualify the circumcision, saying it worked because of a right heart. I say a heart right worked. This is more than semantics, it's the difference between justification by faith, or by deeds.



I am done with you!
Well. That takes care of that. Sorry to provoke you to this point.
I'm concerned for you. Your views are not within the scope of the Gospel.