The law provided for SIN! HELLO! JUst as our new covenant provides for SIN! CHRIST and turning from it and asking for forgiveness from the heart.
That is why this scripture is true....
Luk 1:6 And they were both righteous before God, walking blamelessly in all the commandments and statutes of the Lord.
Oh my... you are using this random scripture as a PROOF TEXT?? Are you serious? First, get out of the KJV for a moment. Second, what does the text say. Law did not provide for sin, it made sin even worse by making it transgression (Paul in Romans). There was no providing in the Law. Sure, one could argue it was to be a guidepost to avoid sin, but all it did, because of our issues, is make our sins before God even worse!
The fact is what you said in the latter is your salvation "Turning from it, and asking forgiveness." That, my friend, IS a works-based theology if that is how you define how the covenant is maintained. It's maintained because God is faithful to it.
It is your who set up false issues and paradigms in your mind.
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Who said we didn't the point is OBEDIENCE IS JUDGED UNTO PROMISE! IT WAS TRUE WITH ABRAHAM AND NOW!
Interesting. For Abraham, you get stuck on obedience, whle Paul was stuck on faith. Perhaps a little leading to how you read the Story?
OFF THE HOOK to DO HIS COMMANDMENTS TO ABIDE and be judged FAITHFUL as ABRAHAM to OBTAIN THE PROMISE???????
YES! Off the hook. Not off the hook so we can try and deserve it again, or try again so we can maybe be perfect this time -- OFF THE HOOK. Soak in that for a moment. Don't move on so quickly. Amazing isn't it! Faithful -- full of faith, continue trusting God. When sin abounds, it's an issue of unbelief, not just a moral breakdown. If we continue in sin, we eventually end up in unbelief. HE has obtained the promise on our behalf, as God tried to do with Abraham (who was his next choice after Adam).
YOU fail his word with your itching ear doctrine and negate the power of grace to overcome and DO HIS WILL! THAT WAS THE POINT OF THE NEW COVENANT! You doctrine is false and heretical it makes the cross noneffect to overcome by his Spirit. We walk in sanctification as JUDGMENT THAT WE ARE ABIDING BY DOING!
I don't FAIL is word, I believe in the FULFILLMENT of his Word. While I reject "itching ear" uncommitted Christianity, if GRACE itches my ear, then I'll scratch until this baby bleeds. This is the gospel Paul was so excited to preach... and one he had to constantly try to qualify to Judaizers worried about people "getting away with things" who really had their own heart issues about trying to be God.
False? Heretical? It's Jesus and Him CRUCIFIED! I have not negated the power to overcome. We can. We haven't yet, though we have begun. Already/not yet. Entirety of Pauline eschatology. Our justification is in the future, though an event to us in the present.
Eze 11:19 And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
Eze 11:20 That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
Eze 11:21 But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.
Eze 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
Eze 36:27 And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
And now his statutes are not on tablets of stone but on hearts. It comes by being in relationship with Him, trusting Him in faith that he is who he claimed himself to be. The eternal God, all-powerful, in control, all-knowing, faithful, a provider, counselor and glorious.
You cling to the "keep my ordinances" as if I don't believe that a person of faith WON'T want to do this --- but my point is, we still fail and still come short. We are perfected ONLY in Christ, meaning Christ didn't possess us or impute perfection into us, rather we are in the Messiah, seen in the Messiah, justified in the Messiah, and the way we stay in the Messiah is a relationship called FAITH.
Your doctrine of keeping ordinances as the security of your salvation wreaks of WORKS, and that is heresy, my friend. And while we're at it... how's that working out for you??
Nice way to ignore every point I made and ASKED for a response SHOW ME THE COVENANT IN GEN 15!
I will ask again is obedience forensic or intrinsic to salvation?
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