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Originally Posted by pelathais
Luke47, with respect, this is how you end up failing to understand Socialite, at least as I see it.
You have this stern works based model of salvation. The only alternative that you appear to even be capable of seeing is the exact binary opposite of your own view.
Can't you understand that Socialite may actually agree with certain aspects of the "human responsibility" side of the coin? Just because Socialite doesn't agree with how far your radical position goes, it doesn't have to follow that Soc is as radically oriented in the opposite direction.
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I understand your point but I think you miss mine. I feel he is playing both sides of the fence. Even what you just said is seriously flawed. The work is Christ empowered(grace) by his Spirit. It is not MY work. It is HIS to do and to follow IF I choose. I know Socialite agrees on certain concepts but he also fails to be consistent. As any person on the OSAS would call his last post WORKS BASED LEGALISM. Yet because I have different view to him I AM THE WORKS BASED. Sorry know this whole argument all to well. You have doctrines that "it is hard to lose salvation" "easy to lose salvation" and "can't lose salvation" with a few variances in between. I cannot agree with his position as it is contradictory to way to many things. Narrow road is not hard to lose. My biggest difference is with it is easy is IMO God looks in the end at the sum of your work and your current position(justification) affects part of that. You are still in covenant/status with God but it can be bad or good. You cannot have lukewarm and "hard to lose." That is why reformed teachers HAVE TO ARGUE they where never saved in the first place. You cannot have people doing good with endurance etc... and lost and with total reprobate status about to be cast on you if you don't turn back to your first love and repent and have "it is hard to lose".
Rev 2 church of Ephesus. The judgment is about the SUM of your works. Justification is a short view of current standing concerning the work God has given you. In the end god will judge you worthy or not according to your faith(response) in total.
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