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Originally Posted by onefaith2
First this isn't my own view. I want to believe water is natural birth! That means all those who refused to be baptized for whatever reason would be ok.
It just doesn't add up 
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Since there appears to be a very large number of people that you are familiar with who "refused to be baptized," could you illuminate me concerning their beliefs? Personally I have never met a Christian who "refused to be baptized." Those that I know who "refused to be baptized" tended to be Hindus, Muslims, Jews or some other faith apart from Christianity.
For these people the refusal to be baptized had nothing to do with the semantics of
John 3. They just didn't believe the Gospel at all and chose to remain with the faith in which they were raised. Where are all these Christians that "refused to be baptized" that you speak of?