Can God lie?

[Dalton]

Originally Posted by Timmy

Then anyone who asks God for something and doesn't get it is not a true Christian. Thanks. I'll be sure and tell my mom and dad that they are not true Christians. They wanted a worldly thing: for their son, my brother, to be healed of cancer.

Please don't take offense to this I truly mean nothing harmful to you.

No, I did not say that, how would the healing of another individual be worldly? I’m not saying if you’re not receiving things that you aren’t Christian. However you have to realize aside from your thoughts and feelings towards the situation that your brother lived his life and he had his own choices and decisions to make and you nor your parents have any way of knowing everything that was going on between him, God, and what have you. You told me once before that your parents and brother were devout Christians and that your Brother had a family and everything… I don’t know the whole story so I’m not going to delve into it but you told me they were Christian… If this is true then it is better for your brother than you can possibly conceive and blaming God for his death won’t change anything but your own path and frankly is quite selfish, I understand he had a family to take care of but yet again life is short and full of troubles and that is a test if I have ever seen one. No one deserves that, but such is the way of life and of the destroyer and there are billions of people that have walked the face of the earth that have went through something of the sort if not thousands of times worse, and that’s what happens when Satan is allowed to reign over the earth. If what you said was incorrect and he was not Christian, you have to come to the acceptance of what happened because law is law and he had his choices and he made them. (Went through this with the death of my Grandmother I know where she went and why she went there and it brings me to tears almost anytime I think about it), if you cannot come to accept that then you are doomed to live in that mindset and anything that anybody else says will not reach you because you have already made up your mind. I like you Timmy, even though we don’t see eye to eye on nary a thing I still feel there is a mutual respect between us and that we have had some pretty good conversations. However I will say that you know my belief and that I know yours. You know good and well that I would not do anything to personally offend or attack you, I’m not the one who wrote the bible, I just follow its teachings and contrary to what I would like to say and how my emotions play into it that doesn’t change the fact of what I believe is law the same way we can want to float around all day and we aren’t all floating around due to gravity. I didn’t choose to be created but I was, even from a worldly perspective by that logic I could get angry at my parents for birthing me. I have to make the choice of what I do, not anyone else and it’s a common theme amongst almost every religion. Thousands of years of human expansion and technology but we still have thousands of years old beliefs…. There has to be something more to that than some grand conspiracy scheme perpetrated perfectly by all civilizations since the beginning of time.

Im saying that it works as such,

Those who were baptized in Jesus name are now adopted out of Satans grasp into Gods.
Those who walk by Gods commandments walk by his will and are guided by the word.
With the infilling of the spirit we are further guided and helped, show, and revealed many things.
After all of this you pretty much have a complete transformation of the former self, you are now a child of God and you walk according to his will.
Now at this point when you pray undoubtedly and ask expecting to get what you are asking for then it will be received.
Otherwise any prayers outside of that realm are usually shallow and for personal gain not taking into account the feelings, thoughts, and lives of everyone else, or out of a moment of fear when something happens and the person is backed into a corner and knows of nothing else to do but any other time they would rely on themselves, or simply to disprove God by asking show yourself or prove yourself to me without taking to themselves to seek him out by studying and actually looking in all aspects. Not saying that this is all prayers that come from unbelievers but that’s mostly it.