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Old 12-19-2012, 06:16 PM
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Re: Trinity Diagnosis

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This is a misunderstanding of Oneness theology. It is evident that Jesus is unique - the incarnation. It is also evident of a misunderstanding of the omnipresent God and what is required for Calvary to be efficacious.

I mentioned it somewhere on this board that for Calvary to be efficacious a man of Adam's race had to pay the penalty. Not just any man could do it. Only a sinless man could pay the price (Rom. 5, 1 Cor. 15, Rom 3:23 etc.). Jesus is the seed of Abraham (Heb. 2:16).

Jesus is unique in that He is God manifest in flesh as such He has two natures. One completely human - Calvary requires this. The second His divine nature. He emptied Himself of His divine prerogatives and lived life as a man (Phil. 2). I am putting together a book on this but it is a ways off as yet.

Because He is unique there is nothing in this world to compare to Him in His incarnation. On the other hand we are all created in the image of God and this is where Trinitarian logic fails. One of many places. They say there is nothing in this world that compares to God yet the fact is there are millions of examples for we are all created in His image. When someone has MPD/DID we know they are sick and this is symptomatic of Trinitarian doctrine being sick.

So again you are wrong. It is one person setting aside divine prerogatives to live life as a man and while here He did just that. Still because He is omnipresent He was still in heaven as the God of the universe. God can manifest Himself in multiple ways simultaneously throughout the universe and still be ONE PERSON, not three.
I disagree. There are interactions between God and His Son which indicate two separate and distinct persons. God the Father speaks of His Son, and His Son speaks of His Father and God, who incidentally is the same God and Father which Mary has.

The Father wasn't His own Son who then interacted with Himself as having a separate will, "not my will but yours be done", in some sort of multiple personality relationship with Himself, struggling within Himself and finally yielding to one of the two wills within Himself.

Humanity vs. deity doesn't explain how Jesus spoke of His Father as sending Him, doesn't explain how the resurrected Christ ascended to His Father and God and doesn't explain His anointing by His Father, His identification as the Lamb of God and His identification as perfect high priest.
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