Trinity Diagnosis

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Timmy

What exactly did Seekerman get wrong in his post? Point by point, please:

who believes Himself to be His own son
The Bible speaks of the Son. The Son is God, isn't He? And the Son's Father is God? And God is one Person, yes? So he's right about this one, too, I suppose.

Please point me to one Oneness Person that says that God believes Himself to be His own Son...

and who wrestles with two wills within Himself, doing something he doesn't want to do but does what he wants to do.
The Son's will was for the cup to pass from Him. But He did His Father's will, instead. Can't be this one that's wrong, I don't think.

Again who says he wrestles with two minds within Himself?

This one person has a Father and God who is Himself,
The Son and the Father are one person. This one's right, too.

More or less but the Father is not the Son. They might be the same Person but HOW Father and Son exist and function are distinct. Some call that 'manifestation' and others call them "modes"

who was the firstbegotten of all creation.
Ah. This has to be it. It's the only one left. Did he get this one wrong?

First begotten OVER creation. It is a term of status. It means as the only begotten Son of God He is over all Creation

NET bible commentary
28 tn The Greek term πρωτότοκος (prōtotokos) could refer either to first in order of time, such as a first born child, or it could refer to one who is preeminent in rank. M. J. Harris, Colossians and Philemon (EGGNT), 43, expresses the meaning of the word well: "The 'firstborn' was either the eldest child in a family or a person of preeminent rank. The use of this term to describe the Davidic king in [LXX] Psa_88:28 LXX (=Psa_89:27 EVV), 'I will also appoint him my firstborn (πρωτότοκον), the most exalted of the kings of the earth,' indicates that it can denote supremacy in rank as well as priority in time. But whether the πρωτό- element in the word denotes time, rank, or both, the significance of the -τοκος element as indicating birth or origin (from τίκτω, give birth to) has been virtually lost except in ref. to lit. birth." In Col_1:15 the emphasis is on the priority of Jesus' rank as over and above creation (cf. Col_1:16 and the "for" clause referring to Jesus as Creator).