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Originally Posted by Timmy
Are the Father and the Son the same person? Is there one "self" or two "selves"?
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That depends entirely on what you mean by the word "Person". You see Timmy, the word PERSON is used with a special nuance in THEOLOGY that is generally not used in normal conversations.
For example you and I would be considered two different persons but by that we might mean two separate human beings.
Well in theology, for example in the trinity, the word "person" is used sans the notion of humanity and being. That is why Trinitarians say there is One God/being, not three because each PERSON is not a being but rather all three are the same 1 being.
In Oneness, though we say Father and Son are the same "self", Father and Son are the same Self existing and functioning in two distinct ways. The Son is God become one of us while the Father is God as He has always been before the incarnation.
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Two wills. Jesus separated his own will from his Father's will. "Nevertheless, not my will, but thine be done."
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Yes but the Son was not constantly in a struggle between both wills.
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So they are the same person, in different manifestations, or modes. OK. And these manifestations talk to each other, have different wills, know different things.
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Yes because, as the Son, He has a complete human psyche...mind...will etc etc
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