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Originally Posted by KeptByTheWord
Jason, I guess we are both in the same place. We love the revelation of who Jesus is, the worship, praise and sold out desire to live for God that is found within the OP ranks, but the extravagant dress, hairstyles, and unbiblical mandates that are placed at the salvational level make it next to impossible to fellowship with them, which leaves you kind of out in left field. And looking around at the different organizations, and churches out there, the WoF is infiltrating almost every church now. It is just sickening to hear it. Bleh! Makes my stomach turn too.
I understand your decision to stay where you are at, it is the lesser of two evils, I guess, but there is always the hope that there is going to be more and more people that God will bring out of that mindset who will love holiness of heart more than the outward dress code, and who will embrace giving as the standard of the apostles, and not the catholic-led tithing doctrine, and who will continue to worship and praise Jesus as the Almighty God. I pray that the Lord begins to raise up men who are willing to stand against the flow and tide of the current OP churches today, and that one day such a church will open its doors near you or me, and even perhaps that the Lord would call you to begin such a work yourself.
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I think your really close to understanding where I'm coming from.
I just want to clarify something. I do think the non charismatic reformed/conservative evangelical wing of Christianity includes many saved people. There are some excellent preachers and teachers. They're are people who ate zealous for evangelism. There are many who love holiness and abhor holiness (and they know precious little of anything resembling standards, yet they believe in modesty, godliness, holiness and all such virtues). I believe they are good Christian people. I love them. I enjoy their fellowship. I believe they are saved.
But its not the same fellowship as with other oneness believers. I can elaborate on that if needed.
As far as men who are willing to stand against the flow of OP churches, I am more than willing to. And to do it in love. I remained faithful to my pastor and church until his death despite the fact he told me I'd go to hell for not tithing and abruptly ended my preaching ministry. (At the time). Still I was loyal to him, moved away but drove an hour one way to all three weekly services. Visited him at his home as he suffered through cancer, and keep his pic in my living room and one in my study. I love the man. I believe I can oppose doctrine and dialogue with love.
What I have found to be the case though is if you buck the system and challenge anything your person will be assassinated. Men far greater than me (I'm a nobody. I know it. I accept it. I'm fine with it. I'm not trying to suggest I'm anything note than an obscure preacher in a small town)...have trued. Loren Yadon, recently Steve Pixler. Guys who if the movement were ever going to listen it would've those guys. But instead they dispose of them like the plague.
Which brings me to your last comment about starting a work. Actually I am pastoring a church right now, but its a Bible Church (long story I can share if needed on PM, and some stuff publicly). See beliefs here Fellowshipbiblentx.org
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