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Originally Posted by Evang.Benincasa

You are teaching that Paul was saying that he was the first of all sinners?

YOU say I am teaching that---but I'm NOT. I simply quoted his statement. You'll not find me posting anywhere that Paul said he was first of all sinners. Again, misrepresenting what I say is a falsehood, proving that Christians sin after conversion. You keep telling lies about me.

Paul saying that he was wretched and a foremost among 100% of the sinners

Paul was a humble man. Do I teach that Paul was the worst sinner of all sinners? NO! But then again I don't believe Paul believed in "degrees of sinners". He taught "ALL have sinned" and thereby classifies us as equally guilty. I perceive that you totem pole sin, categorize sin, classify sin in degrees so that there are gross sinners, bad sinners, sinners, and people who make mistakes. An honest person of integrity owns their own weakness. That's all Paul is saying. He's being REAL. Legalism encourages people to live secret lives, keeping up appearances, maintaining image. Paul is humbly acknowledging his own shortcomings, of which we ALL have EB, including you.

Paul taught that we should treat each other better than ourselves. He sees others as better than him. So it's not unusual that he's saying he's the worst guy ever. It's not LITERAL!

You won't get it though. You're too busy congratulating yourself on how perfect you are.

You flip flop between two poles. One side of your mouth you claim the Christian grows, then out of the other the Christian fails. Bro, that is a straight up contradiction.

EB, CHRISTIANS DO BOTH!!!!! How hard is that to understand??? If human growth and development is analogous to spiritual growth and development, then it's SIMPLE---while we are growing and learning and maturing, we are also falling, and failing, and getting injured. It's not either/or---it's both!

In 1 Timothy 1:13 Paul points out that he was once a blasphemer, not the chief of blasphemy. You are trying to refute the words of Paul by saying that it wasn't ONCE, but it is current, active, and on going. Paul is no longer once a blasphemer but the Chief of Blasphemy, and a leader of those who wreak havoc against the church with violence? Your teaching is shooting you right in the foot. 1 Timothy 1:13 is Paul saying that he was once a sinner, but he gained mercy for those sins because he did them all in ignorance and unbelief. I believe I asked you to explain what Paul meant by that?

Why doesn't Paul "I WAS the chief of sinners" or "I ONCE WAS chief of sinners"? Why use present tense? And that doesn't mean he was saying "I'm still persecuting the church and blaspheming"!!! Shaking my head...

They are going to come out with a new Quickcrete variety called QUICKCRETE EB---extra thick and hard.