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Old 04-01-2010, 09:06 AM
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Re: The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

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Of course there's "action" after getting saved... that's the point of salvation. "The life I now live..." Galatians 2:20-21.

But how did we get that life? That's the point of this thread. We didn't earn it, we didn't deserve it, we didn't work really, really hard to get it... It was a free gift!
I wanted to go back to this post, Pel. Although, I am getting ready to shoot out of here again. LOL!

This is what I am not understanding from you, Pel. You say that there is action, which is also works, AFTER getting saved? The Bible says, "Repent AND be baptized FOR the "remission/forgiveness" of your sins...."

How can you be saved if you are not forgiven? And if you are already forgiven because He died on the cross, then what is the point of repenting, being baptized and being filled with His Spirit?

It appears to me that Israel cannot be forgiven if they do not repent - "Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins." Acts 5:31

It is interesting that John is referenced as preaching the "baptism of repentance" to all of Israel. (Acts 13:24) In verse 38 he speaks of "forgiveness of sin", but he had already mentioned baptism in verse 24. More pointedly, "John did baptize in the wilderness, and preached the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.." (Mark 1:4) " And he came into all the country about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins; (Luke 3:3)

Ephesians 1:7 does indeed say that we have the forgiveness of our sins through the redemption of His blood. But, further in verse 12 and 13, he speaks of their trusting in Christ after they heard the word of truth and identifying that as the Gospel of our salvation and saying that AFTER they believed, they were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise. Here, again, we have another connection to what is being preached in Acts 2:38. That is what I mean by spiraling back to the actions and events in the Book of Acts, which is the beginning of the NT Church Age.

In an earlier post, I posed this question to you:

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I must believe and have faith, but there are things that I must obey and do. Are you suggesting that you are saved by belief alone?
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Suggesting? Sister, I'm shouting it.
Salvation is, indeed, free to those that believe. But, the Word says, "Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness." (Romans 6:18) How are we made free from our sins? - repentance and baptism. That is when it becomes free. It is not "free" just by believing that Jesus died on the cross. I could stand there and stare at that cross all day long, believing He died for my sins, but if I don't respond to the Gospel it would be to no avail.

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