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Old 03-10-2014, 02:33 PM
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Re: Is This True?

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If this is the case, one would have to reject the words of Jesus (as well as the words of many of the Apostles), correct Martha's answer and expectations concerning Jesus, and offer eternal life by some other means than "whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die". In other words, Jesus' salvation message, and promise of eternal life, was for just for a very very very short time period and was to be replaced by yet another message which resulted in eternal life for an individual. One cannot accept Jesus' words to Martha today and expect eternal life would be the result of following Him.

Within oneness Pentecostalism, dependent upon the teacher being a one stepper or a three stepper, certain salvation scriptures are offered as support for their salvation theology. So it is here.
It appears it would be to your advantage to take a lesson of Bible believing. Bible faith is obedience not just a acknowledgement. Not only is believe and obedience used interchangeably in Rom 10:16, but is also evident by the scriptures involving John's baptism. Notice Mat. 21:25, how was it known they did not believe John's baptism was from heaven? Because they were not baptized, Luke 7:28-29. When one believes they will obey! Salvation is absolutely, positively NOT possible without obedience. Heb. 5:9, 2The 1:8, 1Pet 1:22, Acts 5:32, 1Pet 4:17. Faith is a persuasion and confidence and reliance in the immutability of the Word of God. When one believes they will gladly comply.

It also seems you are having difficulty accepting exactly what Jesus said in Luke 24:46-47, and that is it took Calvary for repentance and remission of sins to be preached in His name BEGINNING at Jerusalem. Did it begin at Jerusalem or not? Peter when giving witness to the authenticity of Cornelius experience stated its validity was predicated on the fact that Cornelius received it just as they had at the BEGINNING, Acts 11:14-17.

Heb. 5:16-19 lets us know that it takes death in order for a testament to be in force. Jesus was speaking in the future tense when he said upon this rock, I WILL build my church. The church is not spoken of in the present tense in the gospels. However, by the time you get to Acts 2:47, it is at that time not something he would build but rather something he was adding to.

In the OT they had to obey its prescription to be saved, obedience is required in every Biblical era. Again, one will not be, neither ever shall be, able to be saved without obedience.
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