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Originally Posted by deacon blues
Question: have you sinned since you became a Christian? If you have does that make you a perpetual sinner? There's a difference between someone who believes the grace of God is a license to sin and someone who believes the grace of God is God bestowing the perfect love of the Father upon us and giving us the impetus to obey Him because He first loved us and gave Himself as a ransom for us.
I John 2:1
My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One.
I write this so you will not sin = that's the goal, the ideal, the bar
BUT IF ANYBODY DOES SIN = that's the reality
Christians sin. We aren't suppose to. We aren't expected to. We aren't allowed to. BUT, if we do---all is not lost. We have Jesus who is our attorney defending us before the judgment of God. And because He is the Righteous One, He has the right to defend us, and He does so on the basis of His own righteousness, which God imputes to us when we believe.
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Bro, the great problem is that your groups focuses on sinning, not on winning.
It is like going to your Insurance agency and telling them you want car insurance. Yet, that insurance you will purchase because you will be crashing your vehicle from time to time. No, I have car insurance, but haven't made a claim in years. So, therefore my insurance rate is low. My drivers license has no issues. When you get your drivers license you start out with a perfect license. Yet, you have never driven anywhere. But if you don't maintain the perfect record by paying attention you get points against your license. Get enough and you lose your license forever. There is where Jesus is the advocate, not a second person in a god squad pleading a case with a greater deity. But His atonement of the Cross being the advocacy, the blood spread along the lintel and door. Which causes the death angel to passover. Making Jesus our passover. Not a band-aid on a seeping bullet wound.