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Originally Posted by deacon blues

Paul seemed to focus quite a bit on sin in the life of believers in his Epistles. John spends almost two chapters of his first Epistle talking about sin in the life of believers.

DB, Paul and John are constantly telling (like Jesus) people that they must stop sinning. Romans 6:11-12, Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus, do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires. This was instruction to people who had fully active FREE WILLS. People who could make life choices, and the apostle instructs them to all the Jesus to lead, instead of their human wills. But this wasn't something new, but it was in the beginning Genesis 4:7, God tells Cain that he had a choice. He had full power over sin. Why? Because GOD said so "If you do what is correct, will you not be accepted? But if you that which is incorrect, sin is crouching at your door; it desires to have you, but you must rule over it." In Psalm 119:133 the Psalmist actually is saying, "guide my feet according to your word; let no sin rule over me." This isn't anything new in the scripture. The Judean and the Israelite understood what Jesus meant by "Go and sin NO MORE. Romans 6:14 the apostle states, "sin shall no longer be your master, because you are not under the law, but under grace." Your idea of Grace isn't Bible grace but bordering on Antinomianism? Your mantra of how you don't know how God puts up with you? Seriously? Do you tell that to new converts in your congregation? When I first came to God, if the preacher talked that sorry, I would of told him he needed psychotherapy, because what he is currently in isn't working.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

This is a perfect metaphor for legalism.

Oh, so it made too much sense so you are going to get mad?

Whatever.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Salvation is an insurance policy?

1 John 2:1 IF you sin. Not that salvation is an insurance policy, but the verse you tried to pawn off has the word IF, not WHEN. Big difference, big big difference. The apostle isn't telling his people that they are all going to sin, far from it. But he tells them IF they sin they have the advocate of the Cross, and the shed blood. Jesus told the woman GO and SIN NO MORE, not Go and sin less, or go and continue in sin but you will be covered for past, present, and future sins?

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Using your faulty analogy I would say that actually not only did you not have a perfect driving record, you had no driver's license at all. You were actually in prison on death row and Jesus came, paid the debt you owed, went to the judge, had your record expunged, and you were set free. All because Jesus loves you, and had compassion upon you. You didn't deserve it. You didn't earn it. God simply chose to love you and chose to do this for you.

Wow! You really have no idea why the Judeans and Israelites were waiting for the Messiah? They had drivers licenses, even had a remnant which were waiting for the coming of the Messiah. Individuals who were blameless like the parents of John the Baptist. Luke 1:5-6 There was in the days of Herod, the king of Judaea, a certain priest named Zacharias, of the course of Abia: and his wife was of the daughters of Aaron, and her name was Elisabeth.
And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.

DB, the Messiah came to finish the transgression, to put an end to their sin, to atone for their guilt, to bring in everlasting righteousness, to confirm the prophetic vision, and to anoint the Most Holy Place. Daniel 9:24 Hence the reason why Acts 2:38 has the words Remission of Sins. The Law was given to Israel, not to the Gentiles. But the Gentiles were included, but through Christ didn't have to keep the Law. In Acts 15 they were admonished to give up their pagan rituals of drinking blood Psalm 16:4, eating strangled sacrifices Exodus 34:15, and temple prostitution Deuteronomy 23:17-18 CEV. This is what the letter stated which was carried by Paul and Barnabas to Antioch, Syria and Cilicia Acts 15:20-28. The apostles, elders, and churchmen stated that the Gentiles leaving their once pagan ceremonies were essential. By what you claim to believe, the churches of Asia Minor wouldn't of had to leave any of their religious traditions behind.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

As a Christian you have had to file claims for years.

How horrible, you give no hope of attaining the prize of the high calling in Jesus Philippians 3:14. Paul uses the word τέλειος which means full grown, mature. Paul tells those who were mature to continually press on towards the mark. It was about excellency, not crashing their cars into each other everyday. You have a Bumper Car Christianity, instead of decent safe responsible driving.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

At least I hope you have. Your record isn't perfect, even since being born again.

Bro, people make mistakes, those are growing learning curves. What you are trying to teach is that people are so jacked up, they shouldn't even be behind a wheel.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Your car premium may be low, but your soul premium is higher than you could ever afford.

Therefore you give up the entire world for your soul, instead of keeping the world and losing your soul.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You need every day grace.

Bro, Jesus really saved us, He doesn't do a partial job. He who started a GOOD WORK in you is faithful to complete it. He does this, not anything you can do through some human discipline. Sorry, but I'm in Christianity not AA or NA.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

You need His mercies which are new every morning.

DB, honestly, this isn't about struggling to stop smoking cigarettes. Jesus works with everyone on a case to case basis. Yet, in Matthew 5:48 He tells His followers to be as full grown, mature, fully aged, perfect, as the Father. Not a father, but the Father. I went to Baptist, Charismatics, and they all had the Alcoholics Anonymous pep talk in every sermon. But when I met the Apostolics, they told me that instead of talk, you can have the Holy Ghost and POWER. Thank you Jesus for an Apostolic One God preacher! Bro, it gets better, and betterer, even bettererer every day! Hooray!

Originally Posted by deacon blues

Hopefully you are overcoming, hopefully you're getting in fewer and fewer wrecks.

You don't mean that, because your teaching actually motivates people to beat themselves with a cat o nine tails chanting "I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy, I'm not worthy." They are constantly feeling like they have to go back to GO and not even collect the 100 dollars. Stuck with the hat instead of the little scotty dog. Thank you Jesus for the Apostolic movement which opened the Bible and showed me it was about the Holy Ghost, prayer, study, which maintained you in the overcomer's lane.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

But I guarantee you are breaking the law more than you'd like to admit.

What did I tell you! Like clock work, you guys pump up the tires, and then just before they leave to drive the car, you deflate their wheels. What a sorry gospel. Good News which isn't Good News is just Sad News.

Originally Posted by deacon blues

I John 1:8
If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

That was written to believers---to the church.

Here we go again! Here you are cherry picking and trying to show us that John was telling his readers that they are never without sin? Really? This is the same Bible book that has 1st John 3? Do you ever put anything into context? Or is it just a habit for you to play fast and loose with the scripture? Peter said that, "speaking of these things in all of Paul's letters. Some of his comments are hard to understand, and those who are ignorant and unstable have twisted his letters to mean something quite different, just as they do with other parts of scripture. And this will result in their damnation."

DB, 1st John 1:8 has to buttress up with 1st John 3:6, also 1st John 3:8. He that commits sin is of the DEVIL. Bro, 1st John 1:8 must be placed in its context, with the other verses. Like 1st John 1:6 that if we fellowship darkness while we are walking with Christ we are liars, and have no truth in us. 1st John 1:9 is telling the Judeans that they must confess their sins and cleanse them 100%. The first century Judean believed he was born with a clean driving record because he was a Judean. But it was even more than that. Judea, as all Israel had a cast system, it depended on who you were, and who you were born under. If you were of the religious cast you were automatically looked upon as righteous, but if you were born cripple, blind or beggar, you must of done something wrong, either you or your parents. John is speaking to those who believed like Nicodemus that their first birth was the most important, because they came from privileged stock totally healthy who needed no physician.