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Originally Posted by notofworks
Well, argue with the bible then:
Ephesians 1:13 And now you also have heard the truth, the Good News that God saves you. And when you believed in Christ, he identified you as his own by giving you the Holy Spirit, whom he promised long ago.
John 7:39 When he said "living water," he was speaking of the Spirit, who would be given to everyone believing in him.
I John 4:15 All who proclaim that Jesus is the Son of God have God living in them, and they live in God. |
I am not arguing against but understanding them within context of what is meant by belief.
Ephesians doesn't negate a thing I have said WHEN YOU BELIEVED he identified with you as his own giving his Spirit?
Correct... How do you know WHEN he identified "WITNESSED/ACCEPTED" you? Which is the points I have been making! The texts has have nothing against the points which are raised. People had already believed and had not received... Paul asked HAVE YOU SINCE which means it is not automatic reception without knowing THUS NOT BLIND FAITH.
John 7:39 AGAIN BELIEVING is the point by which we CAN receive it does not mean WE HAVE! THUS PAUL'S QUESTION IN ACTS 19!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1 John 4:15 This is true as a
general statement of the saved. Was this true HOW YOU WANT IT TO MEAN AND REFER IN
Acts 8? NO! Does Paul ask about confession or something WE do to confirm.... that you have received? NO! It's about THE SPIRIT and HIS MANIFEST PRESENCE!
As you KEEP dodging
Acts 8 and 19
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