The Cross of Christ Alone Can Save

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Originally Posted by TheLegalist

LOL! As usual you ignore the witness that receiving the HS is not by blind faith that you have. Congrats on your continued insistance in error. I have no problem with the verse as I can see it for what it is. You on the other hand really can't answer the questions presented and chuck doesn't either.



Does a person receive the HS before baptism? I imagine you would say yes and I as well say yes you can. Yet THEY KNEW THEY DIDN'T BY SIMPLY BELIEVING!




and the continuance of blind faith teaching when Acts clearly shows different.




yeaaaahhh.... the problem is like all your other friends is you make "faith" one thing and not about the whole. Typcal...

People had already believed and had not received... Paul asked HAVE YOU SINCE which means it is not automatic reception without knowing THUS NOT BLIND FAITH.



yawn...



YES believes is a continous understanding it not about "once believed received." LOL!



hmm the continous witness is clear and the witness is that he "speaks" as a witness. That is how God is. The unruly member bears witness of the Spirit.



yes and the believe only crowd has to ignore the points made.

So you believe Simon the sorcerer "saw" tongues? How does one do that? Are you speaking of the cloven tongues of fire resting on one's head or tongues that he was speaking? Whichever, I've never "seen" tongues. I've heard them (Alleged tongues, anyway). Earlier in Acts 8 it was noted the great joy that was present. Simon certainly could have seen that.

You yawned. Sorry for boring you.

You "Tongues-only" folks insist that Acts 2 is the benchmark for all history in establishing precedent for salvation. I have never seen tongues in my lifetime, allegedly or otherwise, nor anything else that happened in the upper room account. I've never seen any sound, come to think of it.

I've never seen fire on top of anyone's head, a rushing mighty wind, and I haven't seen people speak in a language that was intelligible to someone who speaks another language. Yet you "Tongues-only" people insist that we must do things just like Acts 2.

So I'll make a deal with you...when you see those things take place, I'll give tongues a shot. Until then, I'll fulfill every command the bible gives me for salvation and in the process, be empowered everyday of my life by the power of the Holy Spirit that resides in me!